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Re: Rats
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2016, 07:42:PM »




What did he rob ?

Jeremy. Julie. Caravan park. Money.

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Re: Rats
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2016, 07:59:PM »
I know that. I thought something else had been dredged up just to add to the list.You wish.

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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2016, 08:08:PM »
I know that. I thought something else had been dredged up just to add to the list.You wish.

Isn't robbing the family business enough for you?
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2016, 08:13:PM »
Isn't robbing the family business enough for you?


Jeremy's misdemeanours are excused. Just boyish pranks, you see.

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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2016, 08:14:PM »

Jeremy's misdemeanours are excused. Just boyish pranks, you see.

He's such a card! The little scamp!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Rats
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2016, 08:19:PM »
It really is "all or nothing" with you, isn't it, Lookout. No forgiveness EVER for the girl who wasn't as white as driven snow. I believe you think she should spend her life doing penance for it. She certainly, in your eyes, doesn't seem to deserve a second chance. Only Jeremy deserves a second chance. Only Jeremy has endless excuses made for his behaviours.

I was probably one of Julie's greatest detractors. I've never taken a lenient view of the behaviours she displayed. I've made no bones about the fact that I'd have been ashamed of her had she been my daughter............................but I DON'T believe that she did more than relay -reluctantly- those things Jeremy had told her -she MAY have left out how much more she may have known- and I don't see why she should have to spend the rest of her life PAYING for the fact that she once was in love with Jeremy Bamber. I also don't believe she -AND her entirely innocent family- should be hounded by vigilante type individuals baying for her to tell the story they want to hear.

I take it this post is a joke
Mugford jumped at the chance to view the bodies at the mortuary

That was NOT her responsibility

She jumped at the chance
Sick sick sick
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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2016, 08:24:PM »
I take it this post is a joke
Mugford jumped at the chance to view the bodies at the mortuary

That was NOT her responsibility

She jumped at the chance
Sick sick sick

No, the reality is that she offered ONLY BECAUSE no one else wanted to and she could distinguish the twins from one another. Not sure what you're suggesting?
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Re: Rats
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2016, 08:32:PM »
I take it this post is a joke
Mugford jumped at the chance to view the bodies at the mortuary

That was NOT her responsibility

She jumped at the chance
Sick sick sick


I don't recall mentioning that in my post. In fact, it has nothing to do with my post.

Yes. Julie did identify the bodies.

I'm sure you wouldn't say anything you can't prove so I expect you can produce evidence of her jumping at the chance to do it.

If no one else offered to do the identification whether or not it was her responsibility is irrelevant.

Not quite as sick as you painted it as being, eh?

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Re: Rats
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2016, 09:25:PM »
I take it this post is a joke
Mugford jumped at the chance to view the bodies at the mortuary

That was NOT her responsibility

She jumped at the chance
Sick sick sick

well if her storys true it sounds pretty sick i dont know how anyone could look at the bodys knowing what she cliamed to know and then still stay silent.

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Re: Rats
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2016, 09:16:AM »
The fact that AE couldn't tell the twins apart is indicative of how well she knew Sheila.

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Re: Rats
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2016, 10:26:AM »
I take it this post is a joke
Mugford jumped at the chance to view the bodies at the mortuary

That was NOT her responsibility

She jumped at the chance
Sick sick sick

Have you got a source that Julie 'jumped at the chance to identify the bodies'.

There is a recent thread on why she identified the bodies. But nothing stating she 'jumped at the chance'.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2016, 10:28:AM »
Why did Julie identify the bodies ?

She wanted to be helpful. 

She was not as upset as everyone else. As was not related to any of the deceased. 

She still didn't believe or was not sure Bamber was guilty. 

She was asked to. 

She was not doing anything useful or constructive,  as had been whisked over by Bamber. So offered, or was asked. 

Bamber seemed to be coping well, and could cope for a short period while Julie went to identify the bodies. 

She went with another relative to give moral support. 

If she didn't go with another relative, then she would have originally assumed she would be accompanied. 

She believed Bamber was guilty, identifying the twins is no worse than being by his side as he acted.

She knew the twins and could identify them. 

Bamber didn't offer to do this.  

Her WS was true and she felt she could communicate with them. 

She offered in error. But couldn't withdraw once the offer had been made. 

She wanted a break from the crime scene and police. Which was a situation she had not asked to be a part of. 

She believed seeing the twins would help her come to terms with what had happened. 

She was in the room when discussions about who would do this started. So not surprising she ended up doing this. 

If not in the room, Bamber or someone else recommended to the police Julie could do this. 

The police felt Julie was the best person. She could identify the twins but had least emotional attachment. 

She had little attachment to the twins. They were her boyfriends sisters, sons. 

Bamber had brought her over in a police car. She assumed this was so she could be helpful. Identifying the bodies is being helpful. 

No one tried to stop her identifying the twins. 

A combination of several of the above. 
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Re: Rats
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2016, 11:06:AM »
The fact that AE couldn't tell the twins apart is indicative of how well she knew Sheila.

yes i thought that as well.

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Re: Rats
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2016, 11:13:AM »
 Yes,a likely excuse. ::) It would have been better if she'd told the truth and said sorry she couldn't,as a lot of people can't which is understandable.

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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2016, 11:17:AM »
The fact that AE couldn't tell the twins apart is indicative of how well she knew Sheila.

Actually, all it means is she hadn't seen much of her in the previous six years, which is understandable as they lived in different areas.
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