Has the Jeremy Bamber case come to the end of the road?

[Jane]

professnoil detectives say a lot of people are guilty who are later proved inocoencent.

And they also say people are guilty of one crime only to find out that they're guilty of many more.

[Caroline]

professnoil detectives say a lot of people are guilty who are later proved inocoencent.

The same is TRUE of any profession. Professionals are HUMAN - and while most will do an effective job, some will make mistakes, some aren't up to the job in the first place and some just can't be arsed.

[notsure]

He had nothing to lose, how many people do you see on JK who put their hand up and admit they lied when they fail the PG and Psychopaths don't feel stress in the same way you or I would. You think it's an insult to the professionals? Huh? Don't you think professionals should be questioned? Or are you willing to accept anything they tell you? Professionals think Jeremy is guilty so isn't your questioning of them an insult? If you have seen half of the stuff written about the family that I have on here, you would know what an insult was/is!

I think Jeremy is a psychopath because no one could kill two innocent children if they weren't!

well guilters seem to decide which professionals should be questioned and completely accept others when it suits them.  I dont want to insult those professionals that think jeremy is a physcopath but its a bit rich to decide that without ever having assessed him and basing thier findings on what theyve been told or read in books or heard on tv.

i would think he was a physcopath too if i was completely convinced of his guilt but im not , thats my problem.having said that im merely stating that not every murderer is a physcopath.

[notsure]

Trouble is,Notsure,how would it have looked if Jeremy had got there before the police and started knocking like Hell on the front door ? Those who say he's guilty would have said it was a way of covering up knowing they were all dead. Even as things stood,he still got the blame.

well in a way in my mind it would have gone in his favour. He wouldnt have had time to shoot them all dead after he called police. His car would have still been warm and it would only have been a few minutes earlier.all the same evidence would have still been there so nothing else would have changed would it.

By saying how would it have looked is like saying jeremy gave some thought about wether or not to go in and considered how it would havd looked and that is worrying. Dont you agree?

[Caroline]

well guilters seem to decide which professionals should be questioned and completely accept others when it suits them.  I dont want to insult those professionals that think jeremy is a physcopath but its a bit rich to decide that without ever having assessed him and basing thier findings on what theyve been told or read in books or heard on tv.

i would think he was a physcopath too if i was completely convinced of his guilt but im not , thats my problem.having said that im merely stating that not every murderer is a physcopath.

Your words are also true of the other side. Picking and choosing who to believe and what evidence is acceptable based on whether said person believes in guilt of innocence.

I am convinced of his guilt and think he's a psychopath however, I have made it abundantly clear that not all killers are psychopaths and not all psychopaths are killers.

[Jane]

well guilters seem to decide which professionals should be questioned and completely accept others when it suits them.  I dont want to insult those professionals that think jeremy is a physcopath but its a bit rich to decide that without ever having assessed him and basing thier findings on what theyve been told or read in books or heard on tv.

i would think he was a physcopath too if i was completely convinced of his guilt but im not , thats my problem.having said that im merely stating that not every murderer is a physcopath.

And most psychopaths AREN'T murderers. Which means that although someone -ANYONE is a psychopath- unless they commit some crime they're as much at liberty as the rest of us to live their lives.

I'm uncertain as to why you have such a problem with experts having different views. These days NO two experts seem capable of agreeing about anything so it's highly unlikely that you'd find agreement on something as nebulous as someone's psychology.

[Caroline]

well in a way in my mind it would have gone in his favour. He wouldnt have had time to shoot them all dead after he called police. His car would have still been warm and it would only have been a few minutes earlier.all the same evidence would have still been there so nothing else would have changed would it.

By saying how would it have looked is like saying jeremy gave some thought about wether or not to go in and considered how it would havd looked and that is worrying. Dont you agree?

Exactly!

[Jane]

well in a way in my mind it would have gone in his favour. He wouldnt have had time to shoot them all dead after he called police. His car would have still been warm and it would only have been a few minutes earlier.all the same evidence would have still been there so nothing else would have changed would it.

By saying how would it have looked is like saying jeremy gave some thought about wether or not to go in and considered how it would havd looked and that is worrying. Dont you agree?

By George, I think you've got it

[notsure]

By George, I think you've got it

haha yes got that bit!

[lebaleb]

well in a way in my mind it would have gone in his favour. He wouldnt have had time to shoot them all dead after he called police. His car would have still been warm and it would only have been a few minutes earlier.all the same evidence would have still been there so nothing else would have changed would it.

By saying how would it have looked is like saying jeremy gave some thought about wether or not to go in and considered how it would havd looked and that is worrying. Dont you agree?

It's pointless speculating since he didn't get there first and was told to wait for the police anyway.

[lookout]

well in a way in my mind it would have gone in his favour. He wouldnt have had time to shoot them all dead after he called police. His car would have still been warm and it would only have been a few minutes earlier.all the same evidence would have still been there so nothing else would have changed would it.

By saying how would it have looked is like saying jeremy gave some thought about wether or not to go in and considered how it would havd looked and that is worrying. Dont you agree?

Jeremy DID want to go in and speak to his father but the police wouldn't allow him to. Don't you think he'd have made more of it if he'd have done it ? After all,JB said,allegedly," he should have been an actor ",because there are all sorts of ways he could have " acted " rather than have sat silently in the car------doing nothing ??

[Caroline]

Jeremy DID want to go in and speak to his father but the police wouldn't allow him to. Don't you think he'd have made more of it if he'd have done it ? After all,JB said,allegedly," he should have been an actor ",because there are all sorts of ways he could have " acted " rather than have sat silently in the car------doing nothing ??

Since when?

[guest154]

Since when?

He asked the police to go in, didn't he? After  being outside for some considerable time. I don't remember him saying that HE wanted to go in and speak to anyone.

[Caroline]

He asked the police to go in, didn't he? After  being outside for some considerable time. I don't remember him saying that HE wanted to go in and speak to anyone.

After he found out they were all dead, he kept asking to speak to his father - "And the Oscar goes to ........" 

[notsure]

Oh bloomin heck i just dunno i give up tonight. Going to watch a film instead. Night all x