Has the Jeremy Bamber case come to the end of the road?

[Jane]

Even so,Susan,the police were in agreeance or they'd have said no. The way John put it was as though Jeremy had " ordered " the police to burn it.

 They agreed TO JEREMY'S REQUEST once they'd done their tests....................but it was still THEIR fault, according to you.

[lookout]

 They agreed TO JEREMY'S REQUEST once they'd done their tests....................but it was still THEIR fault, according to you.

Did I say it was THEIR fault ? NO,you did.

[Jane]

Even so,Susan,the police were in agreeance or they'd have said no. The way John put it was as though Jeremy had " ordered " the police to burn it.

"Even so, Susan, the police were in agreement or they'd have said no" It seems that even when it was pointed out that it was at Jeremy's instigation, you couldn't have made it clearer that you believe the responsibility for final decision for the disposal lay with the police.

[Jane]

same thing really susan. It wasnt his idea it was the police.

Actually, Notsure, it seems it was Jeremy who "told the police he wanted the beautiful carpet burned" which they agreed to once they finished testing it.

[notsure]

"Even so, Susan, the police were in agreement or they'd have said no" It seems that even when it was pointed out that it was at Jeremy's instigation, you couldn't have made it clearer that you believe the responsibility for final decision for the disposal lay with the police.

do we seriously believe that jeremy would have had the forsight to say he wanted the carpets burned. Was colin there when this alleged conversation took place.

Sometimes we dont seem to be able to give an inch and get so there is no considering anyone elses point of view.

[lookout]

Actually, Notsure, it seems it was Jeremy who "told the police he wanted the beautiful carpet burned" which they agreed to once they finished testing it.

Blood saturated,beautiful ??

[JackiePreece]

Hi Susan, I rather think that's what happened too.

I would have had everything dumped or burned that was left in that house
Absolutely everything
Unlike Anne Eaton hanging on to the bloody lampshade
Uck

[Caroline]

I would have had everything dumped or burned that was left in that house
Absolutely everything
Unlike Anne Eaton hanging on to the bloody lampshade
Uck

And Jeremy, hanging on the the more valuable items - not for sentimental value, but to SELL. His mother and fathers clothes were ceremoniously chucked in a trailer in a heap. Nice!

[Jane]

do we seriously believe that jeremy would have had the forsight to say he wanted the carpets burned. Was colin there when this alleged conversation took place.

Sometimes we dont seem to be able to give an inch and get so there is no considering anyone elses point of view.

OK. Lets look at this sensibly. Firstly, not for one moment do I think it was a case of foresight. It was more about opportunity presenting itself. We have a blood stained carpet -a rather lovely one, by all accounts- which belongs to the owner of the house. The police need it to run some tests but it isn't theirs to dispose of as they think fit, nor, do I imagine that they have the facilities to do so. For all they know, the owner may wish to have the carpet professionally cleaned. In this case, it seemed that the owner asked them to dispose of it and they agreed to do so when they'd finished with it. It wasn't for them to tell the owner that it was a perfectly good carpet which he could get cleaned. I can't see how ANY of this possible explanation is in any way irrational.

[Caroline]

do we seriously believe that jeremy would have had the forsight to say he wanted the carpets burned. Was colin there when this alleged conversation took place.

Sometimes we dont seem to be able to give an inch and get so there is no considering anyone elses point of view.

I have considered the innocent argument, I argued all of the points you have brought up and more. The I found myself making excuses for things that made no sense.

[notsure]

OK. Lets look at this sensibly. Firstly, not for one moment do I think it was a case of foresight. It was more about opportunity presenting itself. We have a blood stained carpet -a rather lovely one, by all accounts- which belongs to the owner of the house. The police need it to run some tests but it isn't theirs to dispose of as they think fit, nor, do I imagine that they have the facilities to do so. For all they know, the owner may wish to have the carpet professionally cleaned. In this case, it seemed that the owner asked them to dispose of it and they agreed to do so when they'd finished with it. It wasn't for them to tell the owner that it was a perfectly good carpet which he could get cleaned. I can't see how ANY of this possible explanation is in any way irrational.p

trouble i have with this jane is that i dont really know what is the truth. I rely on statements and the police records we have on here and i was conviced i had read somewhere that it was the police that had instigated the disposal of carpets etc from the house but of course i could be wrong.

I am beginning to feel jb did do some very unusual things though. The argument about him driving really slowly keeps going through my mind. He didnt know for sure anyone had actually been shot so why didnt he just drive right on up to the house and let himself in or knock the door.

[notsure]

OK. Lets look at this sensibly. Firstly, not for one moment do I think it was a case of foresight. It was more about opportunity presenting itself. We have a blood stained carpet -a rather lovely one, by all accounts- which belongs to the owner of the house. The police need it to run some tests but it isn't theirs to dispose of as they think fit, nor, do I imagine that they have the facilities to do so. For all they know, the owner may wish to have the carpet professionally cleaned. In this case, it seemed that the owner asked them to dispose of it and they agreed to do so when they'd finished with it. It wasn't for them to tell the owner that it was a perfectly good carpet which he could get cleaned. I can't see how ANY of this possible explanation is in any way irrational.p

trouble i have with this jane is that i dont really know what is the truth. I rely on statements and the police records we have on here and i was conviced i had read somewhere that it was the police that had instigated the disposal of carpets etc from the house but of course i could be wrong.

I am beginning to feel jb did do some very unusual things though. The argument about him driving really slowly keeps going through my mind. He didnt know for sure anyone had actually been shot so why didnt he just drive right on up to the house and let himself in or knock the door.

[guest154]

trouble i have with this jane is that i dont really know what is the truth. I rely on statements and the police records we have on here and i was conviced i had read somewhere that it was the police that had instigated the disposal of carpets etc from the house but of course i could be wrong.

I am beginning to feel jb did do some very unusual things though. The argument about him driving really slowly keeps going through my mind. He didnt know for sure anyone had actually been shot so why didnt he just drive right on up to the house and let himself in or knock the door.

This is what I would have done to be honest, if it was my Dad I would have just gone there, even though the police were coming. But he didn't, he wanted to arrive their with the police. To be honest I would have gone inside whilst the police were standing telling me to wait. If the door was locked, I would have gone in through the window - the way he knew how.

[Caroline]

trouble i have with this jane is that i dont really know what is the truth. I rely on statements and the police records we have on here and i was conviced i had read somewhere that it was the police that had instigated the disposal of carpets etc from the house but of course i could be wrong.

I am beginning to feel jb did do some very unusual things though. The argument about him driving really slowly keeps going through my mind. He didnt know for sure anyone had actually been shot so why didnt he just drive right on up to the house and let himself in or knock the door.

Thank you for admitting it.

[lookout]

Trouble is,Notsure,how would it have looked if Jeremy had got there before the police and started knocking like Hell on the front door ? Those who say he's guilty would have said it was a way of covering up knowing they were all dead. Even as things stood,he still got the blame.