Was there a hitman (or two) ?

[maggie]

The guy is Kevin Cooper and he's 57.

http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=816

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/kevin-cooper-death-penalty-case

Found him lookout.

[lookout]

http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=816

Found him lookout.

That's him Maggie and I notice the Human Rights are investigating it too. It would seem that the case has dragged on and now because his execution seems imminent they're all jumping through hoops.

[maggie]

That's him Maggie and I notice the Human Rights are investigating it too. It would seem that the case has dragged on and now because his execution seems imminent they're all jumping through hoops.

Clive Stafford Smith was the lawyer who represented men many people in this situation on death row in America but lately he's been involved with Guantanamo Bay. 
Kevin Cooper has lost 30 years of his life if they decide he's innocent after all and he'll never get that back.

[lookout]

Clive Stafford Smith was the lawyer who represented many people in this situation on death row in America but lately he's been involved with Guantanamo Bay. 
Kevin Cooper has lost 30 years of his life if they decide he's innocent after all and he'll never get that back.

Well if folk believe the words of a judge,or in this case 5 judges------------------------------

[maggie]

Well if folk believe the words of a judge,or in this case 5 judges------------------------------

I don't know the details of the case or very much about the American system but it does seem horrendous for a so called civilised country to treat people the way they do.  'To be black in America is very difficult', I was told recently by a well educated, middle class young man born in Zimbabwe and raised in America ... how shameful.

[lookout]

I don't know the details of the case or very much about the American system but it does seem horrendous for a so called civilised country to treat people the way they do.  'To be black in America is very difficult', I was told recently by a well educated, middle class young man born in Zimbabwe and raised in America ... how shameful.

So very sad Maggie and as you said----------shameful.

[Jane]

So very sad Maggie and as you said----------shameful.

Equally sad and shameful is the  -seemingly- appalling cover up of what happened to those young soldiers at Deepcut Barracks. Those in command were in loco parentis. It seems they failed miserably.

[maggie]

Equally sad and shameful is the  -seemingly- appalling cover up of what happened to those young soldiers at Deepcut Barracks. Those in command were in loco parentis. It seems they failed miserably.

I agree Jane, we are far from squeaky clean in this country.  Have been reading about Christopher Alder online.  It is truly shocking imo and has been in the press but somehow it doesn't seem to have got into the public psychie. 

[lookout]

Equally sad and shameful is the  -seemingly- appalling cover up of what happened to those young soldiers at Deepcut Barracks. Those in command were in loco parentis. It seems they failed miserably.

That is truly disgusting. I did think at one point that it was all going to be brushed under the carpet,as that's the type of crime which has been committed. Thank goodness it's back to the fore.