What Rivlin told the Jury about Julie Mugford

[Jane]

It was the asking out of another woman that drove her, nothing more, nothing less.
IMO jm was up to her neck in it.
What I find strange is Jeremy has to my knowledge never questioned this.
Is it because if he implicated JM he would implicate himself?

That wasn't too hard, was it?

[buddy]

But still said NOTHING.

[buddy]

That wasn't too hard, was it?

Nothings easy here.

[Jane]

JM states:

'He also said that he would have to kill Sheila and the twins as well. I asked him why as I could understand him talking about his parents like that but not about Sheila and the twins.'

She could understand him planning to kill his parents!

Which begs the question, how was her relationship with here own parents?

[buddy]

Which begs the question, how was her relationship with here own parents?

Good question.

[notsure]

No unfortunately.  There is no complete transcript prepared of a trial.  Transcripts are prepared from tape recordings or stenographers' notes and only specific sections are prepared when requested for the purpose of an appeal.

Are there tape recordings that can be bought in written form? Was it all taped ?

[Jane]

Good question.

Some psychologists believe that in the second we lock eyes with the person who is to become our "significant other" they, and we, "know" all that is necessary for a relationship, with that person, to work. Like calls to like. The parental thing MAY have been the spark which ignited Julie and Jeremy.

[notsure]

JM states:

'He also said that he would have to kill Sheila and the twins as well. I asked him why as I could understand him talking about his parents like that but not about Sheila and the twins.'

She could understand him planning to kill his parents!

yes i dont mind you putting a load of bullets into your parents but not your sister and the twins. She is odd .

[Jane]

yes i dont mind you putting a load of bullets into your parents but not your sister and the twins. She is odd .

She isn't "odd" if she had a similar relationship with her parents to the one Jeremy had with his own.

[guest154]

yes i dont mind you putting a load of bullets into your parents but not your sister and the twins. She is odd .

She says she can understand him feeling like that about his parents. He felt annoyed by them, mis-treated and that he wasn't equal to Sheila......... So Julie can believe Jeremy's case for those feelings .

But Sheila and the twins were completely innocent.

Particularly the twins. What had they eve done to him? Or anyone.

That's my understanding of the comments.

[Jan]

she could understand him talking about killing them - that's my impression . Was that because she was offered some of the spoils?

[guest154]

she could understand him talking about killing them - that's my impression . Was that because she was offered some of the spoils?

Or because she saw his reasons as legitimate, that he had a genuine gripe.

[Jane]

she could understand him talking about killing them - that's my impression . Was that because she was offered some of the spoils?

There may have been an oblique suggestion of it, OR it was wishful thinking?

[lebaleb]

She says she can understand him feeling like that about his parents. He felt annoyed by them, mis-treated and that he wasn't equal to Sheila......... So Julie can believe Jeremy's case for those feelings .

But Sheila and the twins were completely innocent.

Particularly the twins. What had they eve done to him? Or anyone.

That's my understanding of the comments.

Neville and June were completely innocent. They had bought him a house and put a large tract of land in his name as well as making him 90% beneficiary in their wills.

[guest154]

Neville and June were completely innocent. They had bought him a house and put a large tract of land in his name as well as making him 90% beneficiary in their wills.

Well clearly. But we're talking about Julie's understanding of Jeremys comments. Not sure how that wasn't clear.