Questions about the bible :

[lookout]

Well my question on page one was 'did Sheila know where the bible was' ?

There was a strong possibility she did not.

In her psychotic rage, shooting four people in the head, and smashing Neville's head in, there was also a strong possibility she wouldn't remember where it was. Or not even bother to think about using it.

But of course she had a read, before putting the bible onto her own blood. Before shooting herself. Twice.

Sheila WOULD have known where 5 Bibles were placed within the farmhouse,she'd lived there and would have found one in her sleep,but I very much doubt that she'd have been looking for one. If anyone,it would have been June who'd had one to hand right by her bed.

[maggie]

Sheila WOULD have known where 5 Bibles were placed within the farmhouse,she'd lived there and would have found one in her sleep,but I very much doubt that she'd have been looking for one. If anyone,it would have been June wh o'd had one to hand right by her bed.

I agree Lookout, it would be surprising to me if June didn't have a bible by her bed and it would be far more likely in my mind that it would be June who would have grabbed the bible and maybe dropped it close to where it was found but that prompts many more questions we don't have the answer for about the blood on the carpet where Sheila was found 

[lookout]

I agree Lookout, it would be surprising to me if June didn't have a bible by her bed and it would be far more likely in my mind that it would be June who would have grabbed the bible and maybe dropped it close to where it was found but that prompts many more questions we don't have the answer for about the blood on the carpet where Sheila was found 

Yes indeed Maggie.

[Adam]

Another question about the bible is the campaign team are saying Sheila was downstairs in the kitchen when the police entered WHF.  Although the blood line evidence from her neck disputes this.

However the bible was upstairs, covered in blood and on Sheila's carpet blood.

It is clear that Sheila would apparently read the bible prior to committing suicide. So why go downstairs without the rifle after the first shot?

[Adam]

One thing is for sure, people cannot claim Sheila shot herself first in the kitchen.

The bible was open, covered in blood and on top of Sheila's carpet blood. The bible was upstairs. 

[Adam]

3. 'At some point, Sheila recovers consciousness, and leaving the kitchen and through the main hallway she ascends the main staircase to the master bedroom and shoots herself with the rifle which WPC Jeapes and PC Brown had seen leaning against the window'.


This is from the OS. They are not saying Sheila shot herself in the kitchen. This would be unwise as there were no reports of a rifle being seen in the kitchen.

So what they are claiming is Sheila got and read the bible (in the dark) just before shooting herself upstairs.

When the first shot didn't kill her, rather than fire the second shot, she decided to go downstairs. Why ? No one knows.

When the police entered WHF, Sheila then decided to go back upstairs to shoot herself. Why ? No one knows.

[lookout]

 Sheila MAY have shot herself just the once !

[Caroline]

Sheila MAY have shot herself just the once !

So who shot her a second time Lookout? June? So who shot June between the eyes and THEN placed the rifle on Sheila's body? 

[lookout]

So who shot her a second time Lookout? June? So who shot June between the eyes and THEN placed the rifle on Sheila's body? 

Sheila shot herself the second time after she'd shot her mother between the eyes,as at that point June had been propped up sitting against the door before sliding down flat on the floor.

[Jane]

Sheila shot herself the second time after she'd shot her mother between the eyes,as at that point June had been propped up sitting against the door before sliding down flat on the floor.

Interesting. With a shattered spine after she's shot herself, she managed to lift the rifle and aim it accurately between he mother's eyes, then with equal accuracy managed to shoot herself dead. One has to wonder, with that degree of accuracy, why she couldn't have managed it the first time.

[lookout]

Interesting. With a shattered spine after she's shot herself, she managed to lift the rifle and aim it accurately between he mother's eyes, then with equal accuracy managed to shoot herself dead. One has to wonder, with that degree of accuracy, why she couldn't have managed it the first time.

Mother and daughter were only a couple of yards away from each other,if that and finally facing each other while sitting on the floor,it's not impossible that after the first shot of Sheila's,for her to rise up and shoot her mother between the eyes before aiming the rifle towards herself for the final shot.

[Jane]

Mother and daughter were only a couple of yards away from each other,if that and finally facing each other while sitting on the floor,it's not impossible that after the first shot of Sheila's,for her to rise up and shoot her mother between the eyes before aiming the rifle towards herself for the final shot.

Even though Vanezis says he NOW believe, that she never moved after the first shot. I know that's not what he initially said, however, he IS entitled to rethink and re-evaluate his thinking.

[Caroline]

Mother and daughter were only a couple of yards away from each other,if that and finally facing each other while sitting on the floor,it's not impossible that after the first shot of Sheila's,for her to rise up and shoot her mother between the eyes before aiming the rifle towards herself for the final shot.

 

[lookout]

Even though Vanezis says he NOW believe, that she never moved after the first shot. I know that's not what he initially said, however, he IS entitled to rethink and re-evaluate his thinking.

 If Sheila had already been sitting when the first shot was delivered,she'd hardly have moved far,nor much,in order to shoot her mother between the eyes. In fact any movement was negligable so far as her first injury was concerned,all she had to do was aim.

[Jane]

 If Sheila had already been sitting when the first shot was delivered,she'd hardly have moved far,nor much,in order to shoot her mother between the eyes. In fact any movement was negligable so far as her first injury was concerned,all she had to do was aim.

If Sheila was sitting WHERE?!!!! June started off from the other side of the bed. She'd have needed to be close, ie, got round to Sheila's side of the bed with shot legs PLUS other gun injuries. OK, MAYBE. But she sure as HELL didn't make it back to the door where she was found when the final shot was placed.