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« Reply #225 on: February 09, 2016, 12:18:PM »
Jeremy would have been intelligent enough to realise that one shot to the neck would eventually prove to be fatal. He wouldn't have hung around,nor would he have fired another shot when he'd allegedly planned a suicide. Even he would have known that two shots would have been questionable.

And yet you asking people to believe Sheila shot herself twice?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #226 on: February 09, 2016, 12:19:PM »
And yet you asking people to believe Sheila shot herself twice?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D





Yes,Sheila would----------that's the whole point !!  ::)

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« Reply #227 on: February 09, 2016, 12:24:PM »
Jeremy would have been intelligent enough to realise that one shot to the neck would eventually prove to be fatal. He wouldn't have hung around,nor would he have fired another shot when he'd allegedly planned a suicide. Even he would have known that two shots would have been questionable.

Are you suggesting that he'd have been callous enough to leave her to slowly, either bleed to death or choke on her own blood? Yes, a second shot was always going to be questionable -hence it was eventually decided that Sheila couldn't have done it herself- but it was the lesser of two evils.

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« Reply #228 on: February 09, 2016, 12:38:PM »
Are you suggesting that he'd have been callous enough to leave her to slowly, either bleed to death or choke on her own blood? Yes, a second shot was always going to be questionable -hence it was eventually decided that Sheila couldn't have done it herself- but it was the lesser of two evils.





Why couldn't Sheila have fired that second shot ? Why would it have been impossible for one shot to have been followed by a second ?

If Jeremy had been " callous " enough to have left his sister dying,why would it have bothered him any more killing two little boys ? Because you say he's guilty,what you've said doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #229 on: February 09, 2016, 12:47:PM »




Why couldn't Sheila have fired that second shot ? Why would it have been impossible for one shot to have been followed by a second ?

If Jeremy had been " callous " enough to have left his sister dying,why would it have bothered him any more killing two little boys ? Because you say he's guilty,what you've said doesn't make sense.

How might it have been possible for Sheila, having suffered a shattered spine, have managed to re-position the gun in order to make certain of getting it right second time round? It's perfectly possible that after the first shot the gun would have moved. It's also possible, that after the first injury, she'd have had problems lifting her arms.

He shot the boys DEAD. He didn't leave them to bleed to death.


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« Reply #230 on: February 09, 2016, 12:49:PM »




Why couldn't Sheila have fired that second shot ? Why would it have been impossible for one shot to have been followed by a second ?

If Jeremy had been " callous " enough to have left his sister dying,why would it have bothered him any more killing two little boys ? Because you say he's guilty,what you've said doesn't make sense.

There has already been closure on this. My poll saw everyone agreeing Bamber had no option but to shoot Sheila a second time.

So whether Sheila could have physically fired a second shot into herself is neither here or there. One thing is for sure, Bamber was physically capable of firing a second shot.
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« Reply #231 on: February 09, 2016, 12:53:PM »
There has already been closure on this. My poll saw everyone agreeing Bamber had no option but to shoot Sheila a second time.

So whether Sheila could have physically fired a second shot into herself is neither here or there. One thing is for sure, Bamber was physically capable of firing a second shot.





He may well have been capable,as would anyone else have been including Sheila,but he didn't !

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« Reply #232 on: February 09, 2016, 12:57:PM »




Yes,Sheila would----------that's the whole point !!  ::)

So according to you and Alias, a two shot suicide would be unbelievable but you believe it?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #233 on: February 09, 2016, 01:00:PM »
There has already been closure on this. My poll saw everyone agreeing Bamber had no option but to shoot Sheila a second time.

So whether Sheila could have physically fired a second shot into herself is neither here or there. One thing is for sure, Bamber was physically capable of firing a second shot.


If you believe you've closed anything, why are you participating in things which are of no concern to you? Leave the discussion to those who don't believe you achieved that which you lay claim to.

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« Reply #234 on: February 09, 2016, 01:01:PM »




Why couldn't Sheila have fired that second shot ? Why would it have been impossible for one shot to have been followed by a second ?

If Jeremy had been " callous " enough to have left his sister dying,why would it have bothered him any more killing two little boys ? Because you say he's guilty,what you've said doesn't make sense.

It's not only impossible for her to have fired the second shot, it's impossible for her to have fired the FIRST - it was delivered at a 45 degree angle! She was seriously injured after the first shot so she was in no shape to reposition the gun and fire again.

It would have bothered him because he's have been worried that she may have survived long enough to tell police who killed everyone!
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« Reply #235 on: February 09, 2016, 01:29:PM »
It's not only impossible for her to have fired the second shot, it's impossible for her to have fired the FIRST - it was delivered at a 45 degree angle! She was seriously injured after the first shot so she was in no shape to reposition the gun and fire again.

It would have bothered him because he's have been worried that she may have survived long enough to tell police who killed everyone!





How do you imagine that Jeremy would have shot Sheila ? By standing on his head to get the right angle ?
Sheila could only have done it in a lying down position, with the second shot head leant against the bedside table for the bullet to have gone upwards.
She wouldn't have repositioned that much before the second shot as it was swiftly after the first. Shuffled with the impact of the first shot I'd have said as opposed to repositioning.

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« Reply #236 on: February 09, 2016, 01:33:PM »




How do you imagine that Jeremy would have shot Sheila ? By standing on his head to get the right angle ?
Sheila could only have done it in a lying down position, with the second shot head leant against the bedside table for the bullet to have gone upwards.
She wouldn't have repositioned that much before the second shot as it was swiftly after the first. Shuffled with the impact of the first shot I'd have said as opposed to repositioning.


He'd have managed it with much more ease than she'd have managed it herself using a weapon of inappropriate length.

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« Reply #237 on: February 09, 2016, 01:36:PM »

He'd have managed it with much more ease than she'd have managed it herself using a weapon of inappropriate length.






That " inappropriate length " was the length of her body in a supine position.

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« Reply #238 on: February 09, 2016, 01:41:PM »





That " inappropriate length " was the length of her body in a supine position.

It would have been quite impossible for her to have shot herself at a 45 degree angle with that weapon.

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Re: New Technology
« Reply #239 on: February 09, 2016, 01:45:PM »
It would have been quite impossible for her to have shot herself at a 45 degree angle with that weapon.






Lying down ? Course it wouldn't !