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[lookout]

It's a multiple shot suicide to the neck/chin with the same type of weapon. I was just trying prove that it can be done!

Would not a semi-automatic deliver 2 shots for one ?

[Jane]

I know it is, but the text doesn't mention anything about a 'rifle' - it could have been a handgun. There is a presumption that it was the same kind of weapon but that's not what it says - or don't you think clarity is important?

Caroline, I'd assumed it was a hand gun. I can't get my head round ANYONE manipulating a rifle to shoot themselves four times.

[Jan]

I know it is, but the text doesn't mention anything about a 'rifle' - it could have been a handgun. There is a presumption that it was the same kind of weapon but that's not what it says - or don't you think clarity is important?

So you are thinking a hand gun with the same size bullets would be less powerful and therefore more likely to use 4 attempts? That sounds like a question for skippy

[Caroline]

Caroline, I'd assumed it was a hand gun. I can't get my head round ANYONE manipulating a rifle to shoot themselves four times.

Exactly - if it's not 'like for like' it's not relevant.

[Caroline]

So you are thinking a hand gun with the same size bullets would be less powerful and therefore more likely to use 4 attempts? That sounds like a question for skippy

No, I'm not thinking that at all but had a guilty supporter posted incorrect info, would you be so keen to defend it? Also, given that we don't know the circumstances of this guys suicide, it's not relevant.

[guest2181]

So you are thinking a hand gun with the same size bullets would be less powerful and therefore more likely to use 4 attempts? That sounds like a question for skippy

There are lots of different types of .22 bullets. I don't know, but I'd guess that some vary in effectiveness. 

I'd have said (another guess) that a rifle and hand gun would be as powerful as each other, but a rifle is more accurate at distance.

[Jane]

Would not a semi-automatic deliver 2 shots for one ?

Lookout, someone who knows about such things has said here several times now, because you have made the same statement several times, that it -a semi automatic- requires exactly the same trigger action as a non semi automatic, ie one shot, one bullet. It doesn't matter how many times you ask the question or make the point, the answer won't change.

[David1819]

Would not a semi-automatic deliver 2 shots for one ?

A semi automatic re chambers the next bullet so all you have to do is pull the trigger

[Caroline]

A semi automatic re chambers the next bullet so all you have to do is pull the trigger

Point being that you HAVE to pull the trigger for each and every shot.

[David1819]

Point being that you HAVE to pull the trigger for each and every shot.

Yeah that is what I said.

 A fully automatic you would  need to hold the trigger down and it won't stop

[lookout]

A semi automatic re chambers the next bullet so all you have to do is pull the trigger

Thankyou David.That's just about all I wanted to know. So therefore it's not impossible for the slightest touch to the trigger to deliver a second shot within seconds of the first.

[Jane]

Yeah that is what I said.

 A fully automatic you would  need to hold the trigger down and it won't stop

I had a car which worked in a similar way. It had no clutch but I had to put it in gear manually. It was called a Freetronic.

[Jane]

Thankyou David.That's just about all I wanted to know. So therefore it's not impossible for the slightest touch to the trigger to deliver a second shot within seconds of the first.

If one HAS to pull the trigger for each and every shot, why, as a matter of safety, should it be that the slightest touch could result in the firing of another, and perhaps inappropriate, bullet?

[David1819]

So you are thinking a hand gun with the same size bullets would be less powerful and therefore more likely to use 4 attempts? That sounds like a question for skippy

The website I got the photo from said it was .22 rifle. Besides who shoots themselves under the chin with a handgun? You would aim to the side of the head above the ear. I am sure someone in the past has used a handgun to shoot themselves in the neck but it would be a very odd decision to make

[Jane]

The website I got the photo from said it was .22 rifle. Besides who shoots themselves under the chin with a handgun? You would aim to the side of the head above the ear. I am sure someone in the past has used a handgun to shoot themselves in the neck but it would be a very odd decision to make

I doubt very much that anything has happened which hasn't previously but such doesn't make it the blue print for future happenings.