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[Jan]

I'm not really sure how that could help.

If JB's DNA was found on the bullets, then he could say he had handled when they were purchased, or at some point since then.

If his DNA wasn't found, then as you say he could have worn gloves.

Or maybe the bullets were just tipped out and not touched at all, therefore no DNA traceable.

In any event, do they even still exist?

I am not sure if they do still exist . Mike did have a list of everything that was destroyed.

There are lots of ifs and buts - perhaps JB did not buy the ammunition? Did AP leave his ammunition there?

Thinking about it if they DNA tested the silencer, if the casings were available you think they would have done them at the same time?

[guest154]

I am not sure if they do still exist . Mike did have a list of everything that was destroyed.

There are lots of ifs and buts - perhaps JB did not buy the ammunition? Did AP leave his ammunition there?

Thinking about it if they DNA tested the silencer, if the casings were available you think they would have done them at the same time?

It all seems useless thought to DNA test ammunition - Jeremy was at WHF often, he handled the weapons, he admits to handling the murder weapon that night...it could all be explained away.

[guest2181]

I am not sure if they do still exist . Mike did have a list of everything that was destroyed.

There are lots of ifs and buts - perhaps JB did not buy the ammunition? Did AP leave his ammunition there?

Thinking about it if they DNA tested the silencer, if the casings were available you think they would have done them at the same time?

Yeah but Mike is hardly a reliable source. 

[Jane]

Do we believe the family that Neville would always put the guns away at night ?

I can understand the ammunition not being put away - but would he put all the guns away ? There was no lock on the door so would it be  that necessary?

I am not sure if they asked jean or Barbara if that was the case?

I agree there is a chance Jeremy could have left the gun outside somewhere to collect on the way in. He could have had a duplicate key - and then put the original key in the door and left through the window. Although I don't think the window would lock from the outside and I am not sure physically he could get through the window he was alleged to have used on the night.


But back to the thread - IF DNA testing of the cases is possible it COULD provide some answer .Because of the 5 bullets he allegedly did not handle . Unless he used gloves.

Jan, I rarely believe that ANY of us ALWAYS do. Mostly or nearly always is as good as it gets.

As you say, DNA testing "COULD provide some answer," however, I still think there could be several explanations.

[maggie]

Do we believe the family that Neville would always put the guns away at night ?

I can understand the ammunition not being put away - but would he put all the guns away ? There was no lock on the door so would it be  that necessary?

I am not sure if they asked jean or Barbara if that was the case?

I agree there is a chance Jeremy could have left the gun outside somewhere to collect on the way in. He could have had a duplicate key - and then put the original key in the door and left through the window. Although I don't think the window would lock from the outside and I am not sure physically he could get through the window he was alleged to have used on the night.


But back to the thread - IF DNA testing of the cases is possible it COULD provide some answer .Because of the 5 bullets he allegedly did not handle . Unless he used gloves.

Have read other reports in the past claiming the opposite and that he was quite careless with safety of the guns.  Hard to know what to believe jan but he was an intelligent man therefore I would guess he was safety conscious.

[Caroline]

Have read other reports in the past claiming the opposite and that he was quite careless with safety of the guns.  Hard to know what to believe jan but he was an intelligent man therefore I would guess he was safety conscious.

the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

[Jane]

the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

That's right, Caroline. Rarely did he ALWAYS do and equally rarely did he NEVER do. Margins of error have to be allowed for.

[Caroline]

That's right, Caroline. Rarely did he ALWAYS do and equally rarely did he NEVER do. Margins of error have to be allowed for.

Especially as NONE of us know ANY of the people involved to any personal degree.

[Caroline]

Well yes, to be pedantic, but they were at least ready for bed. My suggestion was that JB may have opted to stay the night at WHF.

I think it's possible.

[Jan]

I think it's possible.

I thought the neighbours said they heard him arrive home?

[maggie]

I think it's possible.

I also think it's possible, however, he was heard leaving the farm in his car by the Foukes so how would that tie in with him staying the night?  Even if he took his car home and then brought in the last trailer how would he explain where his car was, or maybe he took a chance no one would notice?

[maggie]

I thought the neighbours said they heard him arrive home?

Can you remember what time they said they heard him arrived home jan?

[notsure]

the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Agreed.

[notsure]

I thought the neighbours said they heard him arrive home?

yes i read that too and didnt he phone jm too so unlikely i think he was at whf then

[Caroline]

I thought the neighbours said they heard him arrive home?

They may have, when he dropped his car off.