Forensic evidence on Neville:

[sami]

Jan, I'm not certain how you can confidently state that there was no evidence on Jeremy's clothes. The most that can confidently be said is that there was no evidence that anyone saw. The reason for this would be that he had all the time in the world to put clothes in his washing machine -if he'd been questioned, he could have said, truthfully, that they were the clothes he'd worn to work that day- or hide them in different places all over the house. He had a month to get rid of them if he'd wanted but may have thought he'd have longer as didn't believe he'd be caught.

hi jane what bamber took  with him when leaving whf  that morning we will never know.so the above  statement sounds good to me

[Adam]

28 is 72 short of 100. There have been no threads on forensic evidence but there have been threads with "forensic" added to the titles in an attempt to give them weight and authority. I suspect that information gathered from the 2002 may have been slanted in the direction the thread compiler wishes it to take.

Well the condition Neville was found, eight shots, black eyes etc, is forensic evidence. Ditto Sheila, June, Daniel and Nicholas.

The 2002 COA report has a mountain of evidence on each individual.

[maggie]

Well there were 28 when I created my 'Forensic Breakdown' thread several weeks ago.

Since then there has been detailed threads on the forensic evidence of five people, together with the kitchen fight. Using the 'Primary' source of the 2002 appeal report.

Using common sense from the 2002 forensic evidence reports adds dozens of devastating blows to Bamber.

Think you're giving me a 'forensic breakdown' 

[susan]

Think you're giving me a 'forensic breakdown' 

Hahaha Maggie I like it 

[Jane]

Well the condition Neville was found, eight shots, black eyes etc, is forensic evidence. Ditto Sheila, June, Daniel and Nicholas.

The 2002 COA report has a mountain of evidence on each individual.

The conditions of the victims has been out there since it happened. The 2002 COA hasn't done anything to change or improve on it.

[sami]

Whilst an uninjured Nevill was a fine, upright figure of a man, a badly injured Nevill would have been very unsteady on his feet. Until such time he eventually collapsed into a chair, I imagine he'd probably have stumbled all over the kitchen, crashing/bumping into everything as he tried to reach out to steady himself. I can't see how the kitchen wouldn't have been damaged in the process.

but there would be signs of blood where he was stumbling about also nevill was tall but did not reach the lamp shade and i doubt he tryed to grab it to steady himself.there was no blood on the worktops or near or even on the telephone he had used to phone bamber.

[Jane]

 

hi jane what bamber took  with him when leaving whf  that morning we will never know.so the above  statement sounds good to me

Sami, thank-you.

[Jane]

but there would be signs of blood where he was stumbling about also nevill was tall but did not reach the lamp shade and i doubt he tryed to grab it to steady himself.there was no blood on the worktops or near or even on the telephone he had used to phone bamber.

But why would Nevill make a call to Jeremy when Jeremy was there murdering him?

[lookout]

but there would be signs of blood where he was stumbling about also nevill was tall but did not reach the lamp shade and i doubt he tryed to grab it to steady himself.there was no blood on the worktops or near or even on the telephone he had used to phone bamber.

There WAS blood ( fingermarks ) on the worktop and there was also blood on the wallpaper near the stairs ( downstairs )

[lookout]

I don't recollect those bloodied fingerprints ever being tested. They were near the phone.

[sami]

But why would Nevill make a call to Jeremy when Jeremy was there murdering him?

jane no call was ever made from any phone at whf.bamber knew in 1980s your phone bill would only tell you the units used.and not the number dialed or the date and time of the calls.

[Jane]

There WAS blood ( fingermarks ) on the worktop and there was also blood on the wallpaper near the stairs ( downstairs )

Whilst it has been said that there was blood on the work top, from the quality of the pictures it could equally well have been an accumulation of grease marks if someone regularly put their fingers in that position. It's rather like the alleged outline of a foot on the bedroom carpet. Invisible to most and what would it have proved if it was there?

[Jane]

I don't recollect those bloodied fingerprints ever being tested. They were near the phone.

Then perhaps they weren't bloodied fingerprints?

[lookout]

Then perhaps they weren't bloodied fingerprints?

They were too.

[sami]

There WAS blood ( fingermarks ) on the worktop and there was also blood on the wallpaper near the stairs ( downstairs )

there was a patch of wallpaper on the stairs with blood on it.there were no blooded finger prints on the work tops .soco would have photoed them.