Did Bamber know about back splatter ?

[Adam]

It couldn't be hard for Bamber to find out about human back splatter. Or that the rifle he intended to leave on Sheila, would be too long for her to reach the trigger with the silencer on.  He already knew about guns and it would just take a bit of reading.

He put the silencer away so certainly knew the rifle was too long for Sheila with the silencer on. Either beforehand or realising at the time. But did he know about back splatter beforehand ?

He had to use the silencer. As my video showed,  it greatly increased his chance to commit a silent, clinical and quick execution.

People say Bamber could have just left the silencer next to Sheila. But then that's leaving an open goal for the police. They would still get suspicious and would routinely check the silencer. Finding Sheila's blood on it, would mean Bamber would have no where to go.

He could have thrown away the silencer away from WHF. But to him, putting it in a box, underneath other boxes, dartboards and other guns,  at the back of the gun cupboard was virtually throwing it away. He didn't believe the police would check inside every box inside WHF. And they didn't.

The thing he didn't legislate for, was the relatives being very suspicious, getting access to WHF and carrying out a big search. This happened,  and the silencer was tested. As other forensic and circumstantial evidence emerged and Julie came forward, Bamber's 'watertight' plan started to leak.

Do other people believe Bamber knew about back splatter and the rifle being too long beforehand ?

[guest7363]

It couldn't be hard for Bamber to find out about human back splatter. Or that the rifle he intended to leave on Sheila, would be too long for her to reach the trigger with the silencer on.  He already knew about guns and it would just take a bit of reading.

He put the silencer away so certainly knew the rifle was too long for Sheila with the silencer on. Either beforehand or realising at the time. But did he know about back splatter beforehand ?

He had to use the silencer. As my video showed,  it greatly increased his chance to commit a silent, clinical and quick execution.

People say Bamber could have just left the silencer next to Sheila. But then that's leaving an open goal for the police. They would still get suspicious and would routinely check the silencer. Finding Sheila's blood on it, would mean Bamber would have no where to go.

He could have thrown away the silencer away from WHF. But to him, putting it in a box, underneath other boxes, dartboards and other guns,  at the back of the gun cupboard was virtually throwing it away. He didn't believe the police would check inside every box inside WHF. And they didn't.

The thing he didn't legislate for, was the relatives being very suspicious, getting access to WHF and carrying out a big search. This happened,  and the silencer was tested. As other forensic and circumstantial evidence emerged and Julie came forward, Bamber's 'watertight' plan started to leak.

Do other people believe Bamber knew about back splatter and the rifle being too long beforehand ?

I don't think he was aware of back splatter or he would have made a better job of getting rid.  He realised the rifle was too long when he placed it on Sheila's body so he removed it, I think the only reason the silencer was used was not to muffle shot sound to anyone living close by it was used to muffle the sound for his intended victims.

[Jane]

I don't think he was aware of back splatter or he would have made a better job of getting rid.  He realised the rifle was too long when he placed it on Sheila's body so he removed it, I think the only reason the silencer was used was not to muffle shot sound to anyone living close by it was used to muffle the sound for his intended victims.

Justice, I don't think there are houses close enough to WHF for any sound to have carried through its thick walls.

I hadn't realized quite how long the rifle was until I saw the picture of the policeman holing it. Without endless manoeuvrings I fail to see how it would have been possible for her to have shot herself with it.

I think, had Jeremy known of back splatter, he'd have made a thorough job of cleaning whatever part of the weapon had been contaminated.

[guest7363]

Justice, I don't think there are houses close enough to WHF for any sound to have carried through its thick walls.

I hadn't realized quite how long the rifle was until I saw the picture of the policeman holing it. Without endless manoeuvrings I fail to see how it would have been possible for her to have shot herself with it.

I think, had Jeremy known of back splatter, he'd have made a thorough job of cleaning whatever part of the weapon had been contaminated.

Hi Jane that's what I meant to say, the silencer wasn't used or needed to muffle shot sound for the outside cos no one was close by,  but yes that picture really does show how long the rifle was once he laid it flat he then realised, also with the silencer fitted it would have kept him further away from his victims blood hitting him or Neville's fist?

[Jane]

Hi Jane that's what I meant to say, the silencer wasn't used or needed to muffle shot sound for the outside cos no one was close by,  but yes that picture really does show how long the rifle was once he laid it flat he then realised, also with the silencer fitted it would have kept him further away from his victims blood hitting him or Neville's fist?

As I'm not a gun user, Justice, that thought hadn't occurred to me, but you're right, the added length would have made a difference.

[Adam]

I don't think he was aware of back splatter or he would have made a better job of getting rid.  He realised the rifle was too long when he placed it on Sheila's body so he removed it, I think the only reason the silencer was used was not to muffle shot sound to anyone living close by it was used to muffle the sound for his intended victims.

The silencer was used simply to prevent anyone waking up inside WHF. It worked with Sheila and the twins not waking. If anyone was going to wake, it would be Neville or June, as they were lying next to each other.

There is a possibility Bamber knew about back splatter. If back splatter existed and could be tested, Bamber could have found this out.

He simply felt where he left the silencer was safe enough. It was and Bamber boasted to Julie about him being 'watertight' and it being an 'open and shut case'. But he didn't legislate for Jones giving AE the keys to WHF. As well as the relatives being suspicious and determined.

[Jane]

The silencer was used simply to prevent anyone waking up inside WHF. It worked with Sheila and the twins not waking. If anyone was going to wake, it would be Neville or June, as they were lying next to each other.

There is a possibility Bamber knew about back splatter. If back splatter existed and could be tested, Bamber could have found this out.

He simply felt where he left the silencer was safe enough. It was and Bamber boasted to Julie about him being 'watertight' and it being an 'open and shut case'. But he didn't legislate for Jones giving AE the keys to WHF. As well as the relatives being suspicious and determined.

Which rather suggests he knew little -or nothing- about back splatter because if he had, I don't think it's a risk he'd have taken. All the bedrooms had hand basins so it could have been less trouble to run it under water than to place it strategically in a place where he didn't think it would be found.

[Adam]

Bamber did make other big mistakes.

Putting the bible on Sheila's blood, pulling Sheila's legs after the second shot. These were planned moves by Bamber as part of staging the scene. So possible he made another planned mistake by putting the silencer almost out of sight inside WHF without cleaning it properly.

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[guest154]

Bamber did make other big mistakes.

Putting the bible on Sheila's blood, pulling Sheila's legs after the second shot. These were planned moves by Bamber as part of staging the scene. So possible he made another planned mistake by putting the silencer almost out of sight inside WHF without cleaning it properly.

Mvonig the bible was a mistake - all part of setting the scene. I just wish the scene had been protected more and then we wouldnt be here today because Bamber made enough mistakes that nailing him would have been easier if the scene had been protected early on. Officers had doubts that very morning that Sheila was responsible, and it wasn't a cleart cut murder suicide, so there are no excuses as to why the scene wasn't protected.