reasonable doubt

[Stephanie]

No. Its called common sense

I find it difficult to believe you are 'reasonably minded' (Based on most of your posts) therefore find it difficult to believe you are looking at this case objectively in order to recognise 'reasonable doubt.' Just my opinion....

[David1819]

Still making things up and allowing your own mind to run away with you David? 

I find it difficult to believe you are 'reasonably minded' (Based on most of your posts) therefore find it difficult to believe you are looking at this case objectively in order to recognise 'reasonable doubt.' Just my opinion....

I do sometimes if not often throw humour, sarcasm, and dry wit into my posts so I can understand why you find it difficult to believe I am being objective.    Allot of the conversations on here get silly and off topic so I get influenced and carried away sometimes.

[Stephanie]

I do sometimes if not often throw humour, sarcasm, and dry wit into my posts so I can understand why you find it difficult to believe I am being objective.    Allot of the conversations on here get silly and off topic so I get influenced and carried away sometimes.

Humour aside

I find it difficult to believe you are 'reasonably minded' (Based on most of your posts) therefore find it difficult to believe you are looking at this case objectively in order to recognise 'reasonable doubt.' Just my opinion....

[David1819]

Humour aside

The answer remains the same

"I do sometimes if not often throw humour, sarcasm, and dry wit into my posts so I can understand why you find it difficult to believe I am being objective.    Allot of the conversations on here get silly and off topic so I get influenced and carried away sometimes. "

[Caroline]

By sitting up at a 90 degree angle and holding the gun at a 45 degree angle.

Semi automatic gun.

Since she would have been holding the barrel with her left hand yes. Its not going to elevate or travel across the room

and you call that 'common sense' - someone would pick the most awkward way to kill themselves in a room with a woman is 'supposedly' hated?

[maggie]

and you call that 'common sense' - someone would pick the most awkward way to kill themselves in a room with a woman is 'supposedly' hated?

I would have thought anyone wanting to kill themselves with a gun/rifle would have put the gun in their mouth pointing upward toward their brain and pulled the trigger?
I cannot understand why anyone would struggle to shoot themselves in the neck at 45 degrees.

[Jane]

I would have thought anyone wanting to kill themselves with a gun/rifle would have put the gun in their mouth pointing upward toward their brain and pulled the trigger?
I cannot understand why anyone would struggle to shoot themselves in the neck at 45 degrees.

Exactly, Maggie. When one thinks of the struggle and machinations required to shoot oneself at that angle, when the obvious solution would be to open ones mouth, what we're being asked to believe, makes absolutely no sense.

[David1819]

and you call that 'common sense' - someone would pick the most awkward way to kill themselves in a room with a woman is 'supposedly' hated?

Suicide by firearm is far less awkward than most methods

Looks familiar does it not? or are all these staged murders also? as you can see the gun has landed 'perfect' in these three examples I post.   

[Jane]

Suicide by firearm is far less awkward than most methods

Looks familiar does it not? or are all these staged murders also? as you can see the gun has landed 'perfect' in these three examples I post.   

And all of these are two shot suicides, are they?

[Stephanie]

And all of these are two shot suicides, are they?

Personally I think David is sick and his examples of suicide by firearm are sick. I've no idea why he felt the need to post these and as you've pointed out Jane - they aren't two shot suicides. What a sick individual!

[Steve_uk]

Sheila must be the only woman in history with Tardive dyskinesia to pull the trigger with her big toe.

[David1819]

Personally I think David is sick and his examples of suicide by firearm are sick. I've no idea why he felt the need to post these and as you've pointed out Jane - they aren't two shot suicides. What a sick individual!

4-5% of gunshot suicides have multiple shots

In Vincent J.M. Di Maio book Gunshot Wounds - Practical Aspects Of Firearms Ballistics & Forensic Technique. I quote

Suicides in which multiple gunshot wounds are present are uncommon, but
not rare. These wounds may involve only one area, e.g., the head, or multiple
areas, such as the head and chest. Multiple gunshot wounds confined exclusively
to the head are the least common, whereas those of the chest are the
most common. A lack of knowledge of anatomy, flinching at the time the
trigger is pulled, defective ammunition, ammunition of the wrong caliber,
or just missing a vital organ, account for such multiple wounds.Occasionally,
individuals have shot themselves simultaneously in the head with two different
weapon

I am not sick if you cant handle crime scene photos why get involved in true crime?

[Stephanie]

4-5% of gunshot suicides have multiple shots

In Vincent J.M. Di Maio book Gunshot Wounds - Practical Aspects Of Firearms Ballistics & Forensic Technique. I quote

Suicides in which multiple gunshot wounds are present are uncommon, but
not rare. These wounds may involve only one area, e.g., the head, or multiple
areas, such as the head and chest. Multiple gunshot wounds confined exclusively
to the head are the least common, whereas those of the chest are the
most common. A lack of knowledge of anatomy, flinching at the time the
trigger is pulled, defective ammunition, ammunition of the wrong caliber,
or just missing a vital organ, account for such multiple wounds.Occasionally,
individuals have shot themselves simultaneously in the head with two different
weapon

I am not sick if you cant handle crime scene photos why get involved in true crime?

Crime scene photos? They were photos of suicide victims according to your original post. Suicide is NOT a crime!

[David1819]

Crime scene photos? They were photos of suicide victims according to your original post. Suicide is NOT a crime!

I meant in general.

If you cant handle crime or suicide photos your shouldn't get into true crime.

[mike tesko]

JB murdered his family, as we know. No, he didn't...I believe if Sheila had done so Jeremy Bamber would have said much more about her (Sheila) over the past 30 years, but he hasn't! If police shot Sheila in keeping with the now known facts, and blamed Jeremy for having killed her, how do you justify what you have said?

He'd rather talk about himself and his culinary skills and going to the movies. Btw Psychopaths often put food above all else. Oh, yeah, so what does that make all non psychopaths who like food? Their basic needs are more important to them than any feelings of remorse Apply what you have said to the police who brought the anshuzt rifle from the bedroom window, at a time when Sheila had only been shot once.......

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