Main planks of the innocence stance. Plausible or laughable ?

[Jane]

Other people are suggesting this. They have been since two weeks ago.

Only if you're suffering dual personality disorder and it's one of yours.

[Caroline]

Ok. I'm the only one suggesting Sheila slept with June and Neville. I must have mis read other peoples posts two weeks ago when I believed this was being suggested.

Slapped wrists for me. It is a terrible suggestion and I have no need to make this suggestion. As I know there are loads of other ways Sheila would have ended up in the main bedroom. Which I have previously posted.

I misunderstood April today when she posted 'Unless Sheila was already in the main bedroom'. After I asked why Sheila had none of June's blood on her feet.

Caroline corrected me. Suggesting Sheila slept with June so she could be a few feet nearer two six year old boys. Neville sleeping in another bedroom.

You don't agree with it and made the suggestion that she was carried to the MB and didn't wake. We ALL think that's a terrible suggestion, we won't agree but now you have been corrected (and like Maggie said) move on!

[Jan]

Caroline is saying Sheila slept with June. To be a few feet nearer two six year old boys.

Which I have just given my opinion on.

No that is not what was said. It was suggested at some time in the evening Sheila MAY have laid on the bed with june perhaps reading the bible or having a heart to heart  and Neville perhaps left them to it for a while.  That is all that was said .

[Adam]

You don't agree with it and made the suggestion that she was carried to the MB and didn't wake. We ALL think that's a terrible suggestion, we won't agree but now you have been corrected (and like Maggie said) move on!

Everyone agrees that Sheila had none of June's blood on her hands and feet.

So she was either already in the bedroom. As suggested today, so she could be a few feet nearer two six year old boys. Neville generously agreeing to move rooms.

She miraculously walked across the bedroom with Bamber, without getting any blood on her feet.

She woke and checked on June, getting blood all over her hands and feet. Then washed it all off before Bamber returned upstairs.

Bamber washed all the blood off after killing Sheila. Although there was no benefit for him to do this.

A half asleep Sheila was carried about 6 feet across the bedroom to the location where Bamber could execute her. Sheila not having the chance to see June and react.

[Jan]

Other people have suggested it.

But are now pretending they didn't as it's such a naff idea. Now trying to xxxxx xxx xxxxx xx xx.

I'm not going to find the posts as it was two weeks ago.

It was a discussion - That is what the forum is about. The only one making  CLAIMS is you.

[maggie]

No that is not what was said. It was suggested at some time in the evening Sheila MAY have laid on the bed with june perhaps reading the bible or having a heart to heart  and Neville perhaps left them to it for a while.  That is all that was said .

Jan it was said that Sheila may have slept in the main bedroom with June, I think that is a strong possibility, her clothes were found in there Adam now accepts this.

[maggie]

Ok. I'm the only one suggesting Sheila slept with xxxx xxx xxxxxx. I must have mis read other peoples posts two weeks ago when I believed this was being suggested.

Slapped wrists for me. It is a terrible suggestion and I have no need to make this suggestion. As I know there are loads of other ways Sheila would have ended up in the main bedroom. Which I have previously posted.

I misunderstood April today when she posted 'Unless Sheila was already in the main bedroom'. After I asked why Sheila had none of June's blood on her feet.

Caroline corrected me just now. Thank you Caroline.  Suggesting Sheila slept with June so she could be a few feet nearer two six year old boys. Neville sleeping in another bedroom, although no bullets were fired there.

Thank you Adam, can we now leave it behind.

[Jan]

Everyone agrees that Sheila had none of June's blood on her hands and feet.

So she was either already in the bedroom. As suggested today, so she could be a few feet nearer two six year old boys. Neville generously agreeing to move rooms.

She miraculously walked across the bedroom with Bamber, without getting any blood on her feet.

She woke and checked on June, getting blood all over her hands and feet. Then washed it all off before Bamber returned upstairs.

Bamber washed all the blood off after killing Sheila. Although there was no benefit for him to do this.

A half asleep Sheila was carried about 6 feet across the bedroom to the location where Bamber could execute her. Sheila not having the chance to see June and react.

Why cant you post without the digs?

No one knows if anyone washed blood off or not because the police did not as far as I know check the drains . Someone (Jean or Barbara) pointed out that the shower had been taken off its normal position which Neville never did . So there was a possibility that someone else at sometime had used the shower. That is all . 

[Adam]

Jan it was said that Sheila may have slept in the main bedroom with June, I think that is a strong possibility, her clothes were found in there but Adam is twisting it to make it into a sick joke.

I'm discussing the case. Asking why none of June's blood was on Sheila's feet. April saying today Sheila may have already been in the main bedroom.

Please don't say I am making it into a sick joke. Otherwise I will make another complaint to NGB.

Appalling moderating. Please PM if you think I am making sick jokes. Thank you.

[Adam]

Why cant you post without the digs?

No one knows if anyone washed blood off or not because the police did not as far as I know check the drains . Someone (Jean or Barbara) pointed out that the shower had been taken off its normal position which Neville never did . So there was a possibility that someone else at sometime had used the shower. That is all .

There was no benefit for Bamber to wash June's blood off Sheila. In fact it was better to leave it on.

I don't believe Sheila had time to wash June's blood off her hands and feet before Bamber returned upstairs.

The police checking drains 

[Jane]

Everyone agrees that Sheila had none of June's blood on her hands and feet.

So she was either already in the bedroom. As suggested today, so she could be a few feet nearer two six year old boys. Neville generously agreeing to move rooms.

She miraculously walked across the bedroom with Bamber, without getting any blood on her feet.

She woke and checked on June, getting blood all over her hands and feet. Then washed it all off before Bamber returned upstairs.

Bamber washed all the blood off after killing Sheila. Although there was no benefit for him to do this.

A half asleep Sheila was carried about 6 feet across the bedroom to the location where Bamber could execute her. Sheila not having the chance to see June and react.

I'd find it enormously difficult to find a post which you haven't sought to distort or destroy. You appear to hate anyone else to have a thought which betters one of yours. If the above is anything to go by, very little effort is required.

DID Caroline specify that Sheila was in the MB for the sole purpose of being nearer -by 6 feet- to the boys?

[Caroline]

I'm discussing the case. Asking why none of June's blood was on Sheila's feet. April saying today Sheila may have already been in the main bedroom.

Please don't say I am making it into a sick joke. Otherwise I will make another complaint to NGB.

Appalling moderating. Please PM if you think I am making sick jokes. Thank you.

June's blood wouldn't be on Sheila's feet if she was already in the room! If Nevill was in the main bedroom and shot 4 times, where is his blood and where are the casings used to shoot him? Other than the ones used on Sheila, they are ALL concentrated near the door and his blood was found outside of Sheila's bedroom.

[Steve_uk]

I'm discussing the case. Asking why none of June's blood was on Sheila's feet. April saying today Sheila may have already been in the main bedroom.

Please don't say I am making it into a sick joke. Otherwise I will make another complaint to NGB.

Appalling moderating. Please PM if you think I am making sick jokes. Thank you.

If Sheila was in situ in the master bedroom she wouldn't have got any blood on her feet from June,or maybe there would have been some spatter on the nightie if Jeremy had shot June in her presence?

[Jan]

Jan it was said that Sheila may have slept in the main bedroom with June, I think that is a strong possibility, her clothes were found in there Adam now accepts this.

yes I was one of the ones who suggested it was a possibility . But I don't think any of us claimed 100% that is what happened.The reports about where Neville was shot do seem to vary - I don't think we know whether he rushed into the bedroom from the landing - indicating he may have been somewhere else.

I still also have seen no proof that he was shot before the phone call ( if it happened)

[Adam]

June's blood wouldn't be on Sheila's feet if she was already in the room! If Nevill was in the main bedroom and shot 4 times, where is his blood and where are the casings used to shoot him? Other than the ones used on Sheila, they are ALL concentrated near the door and his blood was found outside of Sheila's bedroom.

The evidence is that June was shot 8 times and Neville 4 times in the bedroom. Neville shot 3 times in the kitchen. Sheila was then shot twice in the main bedroom. The twins shot 8 times in there bedroom. The bullet casing show this.

None of Neville's blood was in the main bedroom as he was shot while moving. So no  time for the blood to leak onto the floor.