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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Anglolawyer's theory
« Reply #240 on: November 09, 2015, 09:45:PM »
I don't agree at all - you seem to be expecting him to have committed the perfect crime. He obviousy never thought he would be s suspect because he told Julie he'd thought of everything - that's clearly not the case because he didn't pay attention to detail such as times etc. He make mistakes that's why he got caught.

The police aren't trained not to make mistakes, they are human at the end of the day and we don't know that Jeremy didn't have a clock in front of him. He probably had a watch on given that he didn't go to bed.
I must admit I found it strange that Jeremy would entrust his life,as he termed it,to Julie. A few days ago I watched a programme on Shane Ragland,who told his girlfriend in the pub that he had once killed a man and he was apprehended. It may happen more than we think.

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« Reply #241 on: November 09, 2015, 10:35:PM »
two points - as the calls were supposed to be his planned alibi then he would have made very sure he had got his sequence and timings correct so as not to give cause for suspicion. Secondly when he found out his family were all dead then perhaps he did feel guilty about calling Julie before the police (if he did) and hesitated about his answers .Because after all if he is innocent his delays could have contributed to their deaths - athough even if the police had got their earlier its obvious they would not have gone in

The police are the ones who should have got EVERY timing correct as they were trained to do so and had clocks in front of them.
Something has just occurred to me. When Jeremy went to WHF first time after the murders he took away his VHS recorder which for some reason had been set up in the lounge. Wonder why it was there and if he had used it the night of the murders?

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« Reply #242 on: November 09, 2015, 10:41:PM »
Something has just occurred to me. When Jeremy went to WHF first time after the murders he took away his VHS recorder which for some reason had been set up in the lounge. Wonder why it was there and if he had used it the night of the murders?
It was Nevill's prize toy,which I suppose legally at the time Jeremy appropriated it he was entitled to do.

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« Reply #243 on: November 09, 2015, 10:44:PM »
I must admit I found it strange that Jeremy would entrust his life,as he termed it,to Julie. A few days ago I watched a programme on Shane Ragland,who told his girlfriend in the pub that he had once killed a man and he was apprehended. It may happen more than we think.

Oh I don't think it's unusual.
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« Reply #244 on: November 09, 2015, 10:48:PM »
Oh I don't think it's unusual.

Killers quite often talk. Sometimes because they aren't even sure if they are going to carry out their crime, but they are thinking about how they would do it and they tell people how they would do it, some brag afterwards and some confide because it is bothering them.

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« Reply #245 on: November 10, 2015, 12:53:PM »
Crime doesn't bother nor affect psychopaths !

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« Reply #246 on: November 10, 2015, 02:47:PM »
Crime doesn't bother nor affect psychopaths !

Not ALL killers are psychopaths! However, the ones that are often like to brag and some even like to involve themselves in the case. Jeremy orchestrated events on the first night, guiding the police doen a particular road. Classic!! 
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« Reply #247 on: November 10, 2015, 02:56:PM »
Not ALL killers are psychopaths! However, the ones that are often like to brag and some even like to involve themselves in the case. Jeremy orchestrated events on the first night, guiding the police doen a particular road. Classic!!

Front row seat to watch his plan unfold and to lead and manipulate.

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« Reply #248 on: November 10, 2015, 03:10:PM »
Front row seat to watch his plan unfold and to lead and manipulate.

A front row seat to a performance of a black comedy he'd not only produced but directed, too. Amusing, or what?

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« Reply #249 on: November 10, 2015, 05:01:PM »
A front row seat to a performance of a black comedy he'd not only produced but directed, too. Amusing, or what?

How can the murder of 5  people be considered amusing?  Its not a comedy or a show.


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« Reply #250 on: November 10, 2015, 06:14:PM »
I will try and upload some new material from the 50,000 documents in my possession. These documents came into my possession after the 2002 appeal hearing, and would have been destroyed but for me agreeing to take possession of them. I made sure through agreement with Jeremy, that the documents would belong to me, and that I would provide copies of any of these documents if and when he required them. It was a case of agree to these terms, or it would all have been destroyed either by fire, or thrown away along with the original keepers domestic rubbish. Since then Jeremy says he has a second copy of all the material that I have got, so there was no need for me to copy any more of it to him. I can't believe that Jeremy has got a copy of everything I was given, because he never saw all the material the former keeper had been keeping. Amongst this material, now in my possession are some original hand written, and or, signed documents, which may never have been copied at all whilst it was in storage by the former keeper. Anyway, I will do my best to upload as much of this material as I can...
Thanks for replying.   You need a high speed scanner.   Do you have the particular transcripts I mentioned (Mugford and Bamber)?   It would be very interesting to read those.

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Re: Anglolawyer's theory
« Reply #251 on: November 10, 2015, 06:27:PM »
Thanks for replying.   You need a high speed scanner.   Do you have the particular transcripts I mentioned (Mugford and Bamber)?   It would be very interesting to read those.
I have them somewhere in the pile, might take some time to find them. So far, I have managed to locate the Ferguson, Venezis, Fletcher, Elliot, Howard, Cook, Bird, Knight, etc, I have box's and box's of material the vast majority of which I have not yet read. I have all the original letters from and to the CPS, and Essex police, and all the COLP stuff, the DICKENSON stuff, interviews, statements, action reports, and thousands of enquiries...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #252 on: November 11, 2015, 08:44:AM »
I have them somewhere in the pile, might take some time to find them. So far, I have managed to locate the Ferguson, Venezis, Fletcher, Elliot, Howard, Cook, Bird, Knight, etc, I have box's and box's of material the vast majority of which I have not yet read. I have all the original letters from and to the CPS, and Essex police, and all the COLP stuff, the DICKENSON stuff, interviews, statements, action reports, and thousands of enquiries...
Is swearing allowed here?   In case not ------- hell!   How many boxes are we talking about?

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« Reply #253 on: November 11, 2015, 08:51:AM »
What a backward country this is.   A guy is rotting in jail for 30 years, claiming innocence, and not a small number of people have a keen interest in his case but they can't get to grips with it properly because the papers are not on public view.   In another case I am following, that of David Gilroy in Scotland, I read that his family is having difficulty in furthering his cause because they can't afford the trial transcripts at £120 per hour.   If we built one fewer aircraft carrier that will have no planes, or omitted just one botched NHS IT procurement, we could have transcripts of everything for the next thousand years probably.

Here is an American case, that of Scott Peterson.   Click on the link to see what his supporters have been able to put together.   It's awesome

http://www.pwc-sii.com/CourtDocs/TranscriptIndex.htm

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Re: Anglolawyer's theory
« Reply #254 on: November 11, 2015, 09:18:AM »
Is swearing allowed here?   In case not ------- hell!   How many boxes are we talking about?

A shed full...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...