Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[guest7363]

It's common knowledge amongst Essex Police that Jeremy is innocent so someone set him up

Who gained the most from his conviction

I understand that part and I respect your fight, but you have to be careful making accusations like that, that's all I'm saying.  I worked the holiday parks Jackie not far from you I seen and understand better than most what goes on, I could tell you a lot more who thought what and what other people thought of the family, I can only form my judgement on my dealings, you asked me in an earlier thread if I spoke to Jeremy, I haven't no, I've spoke to people who have worked with Jeremy and they have given me an unbiased opinion and what he does, what's he like,  how liked he is and what's he like to work with, I would say more but I can't.  I tell you again I admire your fight and the work you put in, I'm trying to converse without humour, but to accuse without evidence is wrong Jackie.

[Steve_uk]

It's common knowledge amongst Essex Police that Jeremy is innocent so someone set him up

Who gained the most from his conviction

Yet the silence is deafening.

[guest7363]

It's common knowledge amongst Essex Police that Jeremy is innocent so someone set him up

Who gained the most from his conviction

I honestly know some  Essex police Jackie and not one of them told me it was common knowledge, they told me it was a cock up investigation. Also at the same time I have witnessed them in a cock up, maybe if you want I could pm you and you could ask your policeman friend to verify this account.  But that would give the game away who I am and it's on trust so I honestly don't know what to do, maybe we can think about it? 

This was the firearms team by the way.

[Adam]

JackieD believes Bamber is innocent because Julie identified the twins.

Dissapointingly she has never explained how Sheila committed the massacre, despite requests. As with all other posters I was prepared to pretend Sheila was not on Haloperidol & could walk more than 5 steps.

She also believes the relatives fabricated the silencer. But said she 'doesn't have to address' any questions on how they achieved this.

Hopefully her 6 part documentary will be more convincing.

[Steve_uk]

In your opinion ' taken away by one mans greed'

In my opinion a young man has been locked up for over 30 years because of Anne Eatons greed
I believe her and her father were the ringleaders in this miscarriage of justice

Not once has he spared Colin's thoughts, how he slumbers in those sombre shadows with the flashbacks of his boys, how he marks each anniversary of the tragedy going through the motions in a futile attempt at normality, attempting to practise some routine to sidestep the demons which must lurk at every turn.

[Steve_uk]

JackieD believes Bamber is innocent because Julie identified the twins.

Dissapointingly she has never explained how Sheila committed the massacre, despite requests. As with all other posters I was prepared to pretend Sheila was not on Haloperidol & could walk more than 5 steps.

She also believes the relatives fabricated the silencer. But said she 'doesn't have to address' any questions on how they achieved this.

Hopefully her 6 part documentary will be more convincing.

One day a film will be made of this tragedy, and I hope #1424 or #1426 will close it, as the camera pans from Paddington Recreation Ground or the campus of White House Farm, with Nicholas and Daniel flying their white kite high into the air, a joyful Sheila and Colin looking proudly on.

[JackieD]

Yet the silence is deafening.

Steve it's about time for a reality check for you

All you do on this forum is quote from books and you say you have come to the conclusion Jeremy is guilty from what you have read

I have spoken to Jeremy written to Jeremy and spoken to people he grew up with etc etc

I have also exchanged emails on this forum with the person who is an expert on criminal law.  This person knows the case inside out and has numerous opportunities to ask Jeremy any questions he wants the answer to
I don't think this person would have supported Jeremy for a second if he thought Jeremy had murdered two children
How lucky is Jeremy to have access to someone like that

On top of this as you know (and you seem to think I should be putting this information on a public forum) I have been told it's common knowledge Jeremy is innocent amongst Essex Police

No Steve I didn't read a few books and come to the conclusion Jeremy was not guilty it goes a lot deeper than that. I have spent years of research coming to the conclusion Jeremy is innocent

[JackieD]

Not once has he spared Colin's thoughts, how he slumbers in those sombre shadows with the flashbacks of his boys, how he marks each anniversary of the tragedy going through the motions in a futile attempt at normality, attempting to practise some routine to sidestep the demons which must lurk at every turn.

Your posts are boring now Steve, the man is innocent

[JackieD]

One day a film will be made of this tragedy, and I hope #1424 or #1426 will close it, as the camera pans from Paddington Recreation Ground or the campus of White House Farm, with Nicholas and Daniel flying their white kite high into the air, a joyful Sheila and Colin looking proudly on.

Oh my god what an embarrassing post

I hope when a feature film is made a big financial donation is made to mental health charities

[Steve_uk]

Steve it's about time for a reality check for you

All you do on this forum is quote from books and you say you have come to the conclusion Jeremy is guilty from what you have read

I have spoken to Jeremy written to Jeremy and spoken to people he grew up with etc etc

I have also exchanged emails on this forum with the person who is an expert on criminal law.  This person knows the case inside out and has numerous opportunities to ask Jeremy any questions he wants the answer to
I don't think this person would have supported Jeremy for a second if he thought Jeremy had murdered two children
How lucky is Jeremy to have access to someone like that

On top of this as you know (and you seem to think I should be putting this information on a public forum) I have been told it's common knowledge Jeremy is innocent amongst Essex Police

No Steve I didn't read a few books and come to the conclusion Jeremy was not guilty it goes a lot deeper than that. I have spent years of research coming to the conclusion Jeremy is innocent

If your lawyer friend is that woman from Sowerby Bridge she is as mistaken as Lorna Lake, Poppy Miller and the rest. If they have real information they should disclose it on the Forum. Where I quote from books it is usually displayed in italic font, the rest is my research and imagination, affording a brief respite to Colin, which is probably more than Jeremy ever will.

[Steve_uk]

Your posts are boring now Steve, the man is innocent

I wish they were boring and fantasy, but it's all to real for those most connected with the tragedy.

[maggie]

JackieD believes Bamber is innocent because Julie identified the twins.

Dissapointingly she has never explained how Sheila committed the massacre, despite requests. As with all other posters I was prepared to pretend Sheila was not on Haloperidol & could walk more than 5 steps.

She also believes the relatives fabricated the silencer. But said she 'doesn't have to address' any questions on how they achieved this.

Hopefully her 6 part documentary will be more convincing.

Hmmmmmm!  Adam, how far did Sheila walk in the town with June, buying trousers for the boys the afternoon before the massacre? 

Wonder if she walked all the way up and down Pages Lane where she said 'Hi' to Len Foalkes.  Or maybe she cut across Pages Lane on her way to see Jeremy who was cutting corn in the fields, if I remember rightly. 
The boys rode on the tractor with Jeremy.  That's a heck of a lot of ground covered in 5 very shaky steps.

[susan]

Good post Susan. I hope soon Colin might air his thoughts on the case again
He could be very confused by everything that has happened since the conviction

Jackie
I have often wondered how Colin feels years on after he has had time to think clearly without being emotionally wrecked after loosing his dear boys he knew Jeremy well with and without his faults he may have a different view now deep down and could have niggling doubts about who carried out the murders.

[guest7363]

Jackie
I have often wondered how Colin feels years on after he has had time to think clearly without being emotionally wrecked after loosing his dear boys he knew Jeremy well with and without his faults he may have a different view now deep down and could have niggling doubts about who carried out the murders.

Its probably something he hates revisiting in his thoughts Susan

[Steve_uk]

Hmmmmmm!  Adam, how far did Shela walk in the town with June, buying trousers for the boys the afternoon before the massacre? 

Wonder if she walked all the way up and down Pages Lane where she said 'Hi' to Len Foalkes.  Or maybe she cut across Pages Lane on her way to see Jeremy who was cutting corn in the fields, if I remember rightly. 
The boys rode in the tractor with Jeremy.  That's a heck of a lot of ground covered in 5 very shaky steps.

But she had to race down the stairs to reload the weapon. Can't you see she was putting on a show in front of the family, but her fragility was there for Michael Horsnell to witness, if only you could see it.