Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[Steve_uk]

When it came to Bambs' turn she preferred to have hers done in private so I went upstairs to bed. When she came up, half an hour later, she told me quite a lot of what had been revealed and was excited to tell me that it looked likely that we would have children together. She had been told that she too would have two boys and, like me, there was confusion about one of them being a girl. "And I'm going to live into my nineties" she said proudly. "Maggie said I would live almost as long as my grandmother is going to, Granny Speakman that is.". Such well-chosen words in the circumstances, considering I wasn't to realize the significance of them until after I had written down this part of the story. Bambs died six months before Gran-so she really did live "almost as long."

[maggie]

Thanks for the excerpts from Colin's book Steve   I was loath to read his book because it felt almost an intrusion but I'm so pleased I did it was very moving and I felt huge respect for the way he worked to eliminate his bitterness and find some kind of peace.  I am sure Colin has grown and developed into a wise and thoughtful man, someone to be respected and very different from the naive self absorbed young man he was when he married Sheila. 

[JackiePreece]

You're right. It seems he is a new poster who joined in December 2016. His only threads have been complaining about the CT's approach. He's called David.

How do feel about the Bamber's 'Campaign for Freedom' not including you're 'Forensic Evidence Breakthrough' ?

David just ignore it. Nobody takes Adam seriously anyway. He is just trying to start trouble

[Steve_uk]

Thanks for the excerpts from Colin's book Steve   I was loath to read his book because it felt almost an intrusion but I'm so pleased I did it was very moving and I felt huge respect for the way he worked to eliminate his bitterness and find some kind of peace.  I am sure Colin has grown and developed into a wise and thoughtful man, someone to be respected and very different from the naive self absorbed young man he was when he married Sheila.

A very insightful post Maggie. I'm sure many would wish to turn back the clock if they so could.

[JackiePreece]

From what I've been told, Jeremy's best friend was Jeremy. He made use of those who were useful to him until such time as they weren't.

Same old same old
'From what I've been told'

[Caroline]

Same old same old
'From what I've been told'

Yep, Same old, same old.

http://www.bestsongspk.com/watch/FdnAlSBNceM

Susan I have not done much lately but after I received new information I would like a six part documentary made on the murders.  There is only one person for the job so I am pushing for that at the moment

There has to be a series for maximum impact
Above is an old video that got over 1000 views

We have to get the case out there in detail to get to the truth

[Steve_uk]

Same old same old
'From what I've been told'

Jackie isn't that your font of knowledge? You've been hoisted on your own petard.

[lookout]

I have to congratulate Jackie for her enthusiasm and determination.
 At least she has shown willingness in assisting what has to be the worst MOJ in British history.   

[David1819]

I have to congratulate Jackie for her enthusiasm and determination.
 At least she has shown willingness in assisting what has to be the worst MOJ in British history.

Unlike Bob Woffindon!

[lookout]

Unlike Bob Woffindon!

He'll be another one left licking his wounds !

[Caroline]

He'll be another one left licking his wounds !

What wounds?

[Adam]

Unlike Bob Woffindon!

Bob Woffindon changed stance.

[Steve_uk]

When I went to see Betty, about four months before the trial, I still held this image of all mediums being rather eccentric and theatrical, with homes to match, like Maggie or Madame Arcati in George Bernard Shaw's Blythe Spirit. But this was not to be the case with Betty. She was a fair-haired motherly woman in her mid-fifties whose most outstanding feature was her wonderful laugh. The room she led me to was equally unpretentious, simple-much like a doctor's surgery, with a desk and a treatment table. Most surprising, though, was the fact that there was no hint of her going into a trance or anything like that-she didn't even close her eyes. She said she didn't need to.

The session was taped.

"With you, as I'm talking to you..I'm getting a terrible tragedy-a really terrible tragedy! Does this involve two children? And your ex-wife? ( I had already mentioned to her, on the telephone-almost to throw her off the scent-that I had lost my ex-wife. I gave no other clues.) But there were two or three other people involved...older people...two men and a woman but the young man...a young one...he's still alive. Is he in a mental home?"

Somewhat surprised, I responded immediately. "No, he's in Norwich Prison."

"He's where?"

"Norwich Prison-if it's the man I'm thinking of."

"Oh, well, he's mad. I mean...I get that he should be in a mental home."

I nodded.

[Steve_uk]

Betty then went on to describe the two children, one of whom sounded much younger than the other. Also she was not sure if one of them was a little girl, just as Maggie had also described them-it was not uncommon for either Daniel or Nicholas to run around with a dress on.

"I'm getting a child's voice shouting at me," said Betty, "saying, "Come on, Dad, cheer up, we're all right!" And although he was only small, I think he'd been here...back here so many times, he's an old soul, and I think that he is around you all the time. Was there a girl involved, a little girl? Did you have a daughter or was it another son? Two boys."

"Twin boys."

"Twin boys! Well one of them was more feminine than the other."

"Yes."

"Yes, because that one is shyer and he's hiding behind the other one that's a but forceful and so I get the feeling that it's either a girl or he was shyer, more feminine, than the other one. Very artistic he would have been, you know? But these children are around you the whole time, they are, er...it may be funny to say so but they are laughing here."

"I feel they are."

[Steve_uk]

"This kiddy really shouted to me, "Come on, Dad, come on, Dad! Come on, Dad, we're all right!"

"He always put on a baby voice, the other one was wiser."

"Yes, but all I can say is although it's tragic, they're very happy. It's almost as though they made the transition so quickly that they didn't have time to think about anything. It wasn't tragic because I think they didn't know. Do you know anything about that? It's almost as though they could have been asleep and so they made the transition while they were asleep. That's what I get-so that nothing was known about it."