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Offline David1819

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1365 on: January 31, 2017, 05:11:PM »
I agree, but why didn't the defence do just that?

Because its an idea of mine that I could only have thought of with the magic superpower of hindsight.  :(
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1366 on: January 31, 2017, 05:14:PM »
Because its an idea of mine that I could only have thought of with the magic superpower of hindsight.  :(
I didn't get that at all.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1367 on: February 01, 2017, 09:22:AM »
I think David's upset that his 'Forensic Evidence Breakthrough' hasn't been used by the CT. As his 'What a waste of time & money' thread on red shows.

Not to worry. It livened up the discussion a bit for a few days. Even Scipio re surfaced on Red.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1368 on: February 01, 2017, 09:44:AM »
I think David's upset that his 'Forensic Evidence Breakthrough' hasn't been used by the CT. As his 'What a waste of time & money' thread on red shows.

Not to worry. It livened up the discussion a bit for a few days. Even Scipio re surfaced on Red.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1369 on: February 02, 2017, 07:48:PM »
It's all gone every quiet  :o
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1370 on: February 02, 2017, 08:12:PM »
It's all gone every quiet  :o
I was wondering whether prisoners should be allowed access to the mass media of the modern age, including Facebook, Twitter & C, allowing convicted criminals the opportunity to promote themselves and their cause, or would the oxygen of publicity be too high a prize as reward as we see Darlie Routier's long blond hair and pleading face and before we know it we're judging her on her appearance on the day and not the cold, hard, facts of the case.

I sometimes think the Establishment is frightened of any adverse publicity and should a case remain in the public domain for a protracted period they may well come to the conclusion that they have got their pound of flesh after so many year's incarceration and be more favourably disposed to render a conviction unsafe, though still unwilling to grant full absolution.Thus the cases of Sion Jenkins, Jonathan Jones, Sheila Bowler and Lisa and Michelle Taylor remain fresh in one's mind, innocent maybe in the eyes of the law, yet the cocksure judiciary remains unscathed, whatever the timeframe and the outcome of these cases.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1371 on: February 04, 2017, 09:47:AM »
I am not David123

You're right. It seems he is a new poster who joined in December 2016. His only threads have been complaining about the CT's approach. He's called David.

How do feel about the Bamber's 'Campaign for Freedom' not including you're 'Forensic Evidence Breakthrough' ?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1372 on: February 04, 2017, 06:47:PM »
You're right. It seems he is a new poster who joined in December 2016. His only threads have been complaining about the CT's approach. He's called David.

How do you know? his username could be an alias.

How do feel about the Bamber's 'Campaign for Freedom' not including you're 'Forensic Evidence Breakthrough' ?

As far as know, they don't know about it. Plus it shouldn't be in the public domain anyway.  So I feel rather nonchalant.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1373 on: February 04, 2017, 07:33:PM »
How do you know? his username could be an alias.

As far as know, they don't know about it. Plus it shouldn't be in the public domain anyway.  So I feel rather nonchalant.
Well don't wait too long..

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1374 on: March 11, 2017, 04:33:PM »
I have just sat through thirty-eight minutes of a seemingly intelligent though ultimately unintelligible man who professes to illuminate the Jeremy Bamber case, which he continues to describe throughout as a simple case, and indeed it is, though not quite as simple as he imagines.

How one can possibly discern whether a young, gullible woman shot herself in the upstairs bedroom of an isolated Essex farmhouse, or whether the gun was placed in her hands by another before the shot was discharged has been the subject of conjecture for the past thirty-one years. According to Bambergate all the written evidence is there, except when it is held under Public Interest Immunity and it is not.

We are told the case breaks down conveniently into three manageable segments, though I defy anyone to come up with them readily after viewing.  We are told Sheila shot herself downstairs before somehow escaping from Police with bullet in situ in her head and scampering up a staircase, to complete the job with (by implication) Anthony Pargeter's rifle in the master bedroom, even though the bolt had been removed therefrom.

  https://youtu.be/GcaWYr3O3eE
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1375 on: March 11, 2017, 05:16:PM »
I have just sat through thirty-eight minutes of a seemingly intelligent though ultimately unintelligible man who professes to illuminate the Jeremy Bamber case, which he continues to describe throughout as a simple case, and indeed it is, though not quite as simple as he imagines.

How one can possibly discern whether a young, gullible woman shot herself in the upstairs bedroom of an isolated Essex farmhouse, or whether the gun was placed in her hands by another before the shot was discharged has been the subject of conjecture for the past thirty-one years. According to Bambergate all the written evidence is there, except when it is held under Public Interest Immunity and it is not.

We are told the case breaks down conveniently into three manageable segments, though I defy anyone to come up with them readily after viewing.  We are told Sheila shot herself downstairs before somehow escaping from Police with bullet in situ in her head and scampering up a staircase, to complete the job with (by implication) Anthony Pargeter's rifle in the master bedroom, even though the bolt had been removed therefrom.

  https://youtu.be/GcaWYr3O3eE

Steve, well done. I could only manage 5 minutes, after which the feigned ingenuousness, total lack of sincerity and carefully orchestrated casualness got the better of me.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1376 on: March 11, 2017, 05:19:PM »
The man's doing his best,though he's not on his own at being adamant that JB was framed. In his determination to seek justice for JB,he's written dozens of letters to various people,including those who were concerned/involved during the tragedy. Including the husband of JM in Canada to which he got a reply from, which was of interest. 

I have been reading the ramblings of RWB's " diary entries " which have more than a touch of desperation and envy both of which make excruciating reading.  I can't believe that some of the entries in it were from someone who was supposedly " held in high regard " as a pillar of society. Could have fooled me ! More like a person scorned and hopping mad at the thought that HIS children were going to be deprived of something that was rightly theirs.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1377 on: March 11, 2017, 05:25:PM »
I have just sat through thirty-eight minutes of a seemingly intelligent though ultimately unintelligible man who professes to illuminate the Jeremy Bamber case, which he continues to describe throughout as a simple case, and indeed it is, though not quite as simple as he imagines.

How one can possibly discern whether a young, gullible woman shot herself in the upstairs bedroom of an isolated Essex farmhouse, or whether the gun was placed in her hands by another before the shot was discharged has been the subject of conjecture for the past thirty-one years. According to Bambergate all the written evidence is there, except when it is held under Public Interest Immunity and it is not.

We are told the case breaks down conveniently into three manageable segments, though I defy anyone to come up with them readily after viewing.  We are told Sheila shot herself downstairs before somehow escaping from Police with bullet in situ in her head and scampering up a staircase, to complete the job with (by implication) Anthony Pargeter's rifle in the master bedroom, even though the bolt had been removed therefrom.

  https://youtu.be/GcaWYr3O3eE




Not forgetting the " back " staircase which also led to the bedrooms.Was that tested for blood ?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1378 on: March 11, 2017, 05:31:PM »



Not forgetting the " back " staircase which also led to the bedrooms.Was that tested for blood ?


Judging by the clutter on the stairs, it's unlikely that anyone less agile than the twins could have negotiated them, let alone someone with a bullet in her head.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1379 on: March 11, 2017, 05:49:PM »

Judging by the clutter on the stairs, it's unlikely that anyone less agile than the twins could have negotiated them, let alone someone with a bullet in her head.




Sheila was lithesome and would have been aware of any clutter so would have avoided any unnecessary noise in flitting up the stairs. The first bullet wasn't in her head !