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Offline Samson

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1350 on: January 31, 2017, 10:53:AM »
Quote from: Zoso on January 31, 2017, 10:19:AM
This topic was getting very confusing as it had branched out into something about Mark Lundy. I have moved those posts to the Other High Profile Cases board under a new title of 'Mark Lundy'.
Good idea, but there are now two threads there with the same title, David 1819 started one on september 2016, so can they be merged?
An excellent case to study, I have all the files. He is innocent just like Jeremy.
We must fight to get him out of jail as well.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1351 on: January 31, 2017, 11:03:AM »
Quote from: Samson on January 31, 2017, 10:53:AM
Good idea, but there are now two threads there with the same title, David 1819 started one on september 2016, so can they be merged?
An excellent case to study, I have all the files. He is innocent just like Jeremy.
We must fight to get him out of jail as well.

Those two topics have been merged.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1352 on: January 31, 2017, 11:07:AM »
Quote from: Adam on January 30, 2017, 09:04:PM
The proof is one of Sheila's shots was a contact shot. Yet there was no blood on the rifle end. However human/Sheila's blood was in the silencer. Dispersed in there through back splatter.

Nugs's suggestion that RB found out he had similar blood to Sheila  and shot himself, to perfectly replicate blood back splatter in the silencer, and then perfectly scratched the aga has no supporting evidence.

Wrong.

https://youtu.be/yPRd912xv9M?t=9m46s
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1353 on: January 31, 2017, 11:54:AM »
Quote from: David1819 on January 31, 2017, 11:07:AM
Wrong.

https://youtu.be/yPRd912xv9M?t=9m46s

I think Sutherst got hammered behind the scenes.  The scratch-marks seems to have been put on the back-burner.

One thing I always wanted to know about him though - was that Mike Tesko claimed Sutherst aided the defence by establishing the sequence of photography.  Frustratingly, Mike has never given any further explanation or details as to Sutherst's assistance in this area.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1354 on: January 31, 2017, 03:48:PM »
Quote from: Roch on January 31, 2017, 11:54:AM
I think Sutherst got hammered behind the scenes.  The scratch-marks seems to have been put on the back-burner.


Suthursts evidence should have been submitted along with the evidence that precludes the alleged fight from taking place. No fight = No scratch marks.

It all meshes together  8)
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1355 on: January 31, 2017, 03:51:PM »
Quote from: David1819 on January 31, 2017, 03:48:PM
Suthursts evidence should have been submitted along with the evidence that precludes the alleged fight from taking place. No fight = No scratch marks.

It all meshes together  8)
I agree, but why didn't the defence do just that?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1356 on: January 31, 2017, 04:44:PM »
Why didn't the defence call the bank manager?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1357 on: January 31, 2017, 04:48:PM »
He agreed not to prosecute Mugford, why?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1358 on: January 31, 2017, 04:50:PM »
She went to court squeaky clean, why?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1359 on: January 31, 2017, 04:53:PM »
None of the girls were prosecuted for cheque book fraud, why?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1360 on: January 31, 2017, 04:58:PM »
Quote from: David1819 on January 31, 2017, 03:48:PM
Suthursts evidence should have been submitted along with the evidence that precludes the alleged fight from taking place. No fight = No scratch marks.

It all meshes together  8)

The CCRC or crown's photographic expert challenged Sutherst's findings.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1361 on: January 31, 2017, 05:03:PM »
Quote from: buddy on January 31, 2017, 03:51:PM
I agree, but why didn't the defence do just that?

When did Smethurst come onto the scene ? Thought it was a long time after the trial & 2002 appeal.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1362 on: January 31, 2017, 05:04:PM »
Quote from: Roch on January 31, 2017, 04:58:PM
The CCRC or crown's photographic expert challenged Sutherst's findings.
So what. The defence could have challenged.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1363 on: January 31, 2017, 05:07:PM »
Quote from: Adam on January 31, 2017, 05:03:PM
When did Smethurst come onto the scene ? Thought it was a long time after the trial & 2002 appeal.
Don't know Adam perhaps Mike can help.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1364 on: January 31, 2017, 05:08:PM »
Quote from: buddy on January 31, 2017, 05:04:PM
So what. The defence could have challenged.

Either his findings were open to question or he overstepped his remit.  I'm not sure which.
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