Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[guest7363]

thanks jackie

Be like me Notsure, I have everyone on block now ha ha x

[Caroline]

..or he used it to clean the silencer.

He couldn't have Steve, the tampon is too big for such use and if he had, cleaned it, there wouldn't have been blood on it.

[lookout]

Hi notsure

I agree with you on this one JB would not know about her period and if Sheila had left it in the lounge earlier June would have moved it as she would not want the children picking it up and back then periods/tampons were not talked about especially with parents that was the way in my home

My home too,Susan. A taboo subject only spoken of in mime fashion when mum spoke to her sister ( Cissie and Ada style )

[Stephanie]

Hi Steve, how true was this, is there any reference in Colin's book?  I know it's the News of the world?

http://www.newsoftheworld.top/2016/07/warped-killer-jeremy-bamber-is-hated-by.html

Maybe the reason Luke Mitchell couldn't find any books in the library on Satan is because Bamber had them all.

[Steve_uk]

Hi Steve, how true was this, is there any reference in Colin's book?  I know it's the News of the world?

http://www.newsoftheworld.top/2016/07/warped-killer-jeremy-bamber-is-hated-by.html

Hi justice I don't remember any reference to this in Colin's book, though the film was huge at the time and Jeremy probably thought it funny with the mother and daughter parallel with his own family.

[lookout]

Be like me Notsure, I have everyone on block now ha ha x

Including me ?

[guest7363]

Including me ?

Did someone say something?  Ha Ha not you Lookout x

[Samson]

Did he ever have the slightest inkling of the impact of his crimes or prepare in any way for the aftermath? He knows like the fox that the killing of Nicholas and Daniel was totally unjustifiable which is why he brought them into the letter, mentioning them by name. They died along with Sheila so he did not have to share the spoils, they were not emotionally disturbed but had survived the school of hard knocks and felt a compassion for their fellow friends unique in children of their age, a trait they had inherited from both their unassuming, altruistic parents.

Jeez Steve, can you really write that with a straight face? Sheila was an unassuming altruistic parent? She was a full blown paranoid schizophrenic who six weeks earlier said “All people are bad and deserve to be killed.” You should know that better than anyone by the obvious thoroughness with which you have researched the background to the sorry saga.
You have me completely flummoxed.
How depressing.

[Steve_uk]

Jeez Steve, can you really write that with a straight face? Sheila was an unassuming altruistic parent? She was a full blown paranoid schizophrenic who six weeks earlier said “All people are bad and deserve to be killed.” You should know that better than anyone by the obvious thoroughness with which you have researched the background to the sorry saga.
You have me completely flummoxed.
How depressing.

I'm well aware of that and also aware of the limitations the concomitant medication places on the individual when in a psychotic state. They're far more likely to forget their period with the mess that entails, let alone shoot four dead without missing once and wield the rifle in such a way as to conveniently dispatch oneself for Jeremy situated four miles away to inherit.

[lookout]

Steve,nobody would miss a shot from a couple of feet away,or less.Even if you had one eye.

[Samson]

I'm well aware of that and also aware of the limitations the concomitant medication places on the individual when in a psychotic state. They're far more likely to forget their period with the mess that entails, let alone shoot four dead without missing once and wield the rifle in such a way as to conveniently dispatch oneself for Jeremy situated four miles away to inherit.

We see different things Steve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPCoe-6RRks

[guest2181]

hi Susan, yes Hartley did mention it, thanks I'm playing catchup all the time

Yeah, I don't think that anymore since Caroline showed that it was a toy silencer.

[guest2181]

The shots to the lip/law were also at a downwards trajectory. Read Vanezis trial testimony. I have attached the relevant transcript in this post.

I think it's a case of making uneducated assumptions.

The bullet tracts being downwards does not necessarily relate to the trajectory of the bullet before it struck it's target, just the route it took after hitting bone.

In any event, Nevilles head would/could have been lower than the rifle whilst he was in the bedroom, the shell casings indicate that he must have been shot in the main bedroom.

I don't actually see how suggesting otherwise aids your cause.

[Samson]

I think it's a case of making uneducated assumptions.

The bullet tracts being downwards does not necessarily relate to the trajectory of the bullet before it struck it's target, just the route it took after hitting bone.

In any event, Nevilles head would/could have been lower than the rifle whilst he was in the bedroom, the shell casings indicate that he must have been shot in the main bedroom.

I don't actually see how suggesting otherwise aids your cause.

The shell casings show where the shooter was standing. They are scattered around the doorway. Sheila shot June 5 times then immediately prepared to shoot Nevill as he came up the stairs. She shot him twice surprising him, as he could not see her till he came around the winder. He turned and she fired twice at his left shoulder and the gun was empty.
That is what happened Hartley.

[guest2181]

The shell casings show where the shooter was standing. They are scattered around the doorway. Sheila shot June 5 times then immediately prepared to shoot Nevill as he came up the stairs. She shot him twice surprising him, as he could not see her till he came around the winder. He turned and she fired twice at his left shoulder and the gun was empty.
That is what happened Hartley.

The shell casings are in the bedroom not the stairs.

It actually makes little difference but you keep claiming things as fact which you can't possibly know.