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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1080 on: January 22, 2017, 02:16:PM »
No strategy.

You gave a Sheila scenario. I asked 16 questions. You have so far refused to answer any of them.
Actually I have been typing continuously trying to keep up. To say I refuse is a broad brush.
If I may ask, is there anything that could change your mind, or would you happily have old Henri Pierrepoint hang him?
Bearing in mind he would be hanged in a heart beat in the golden 50's.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1081 on: January 22, 2017, 02:16:PM »
The most impossible points in the latest scenario again revolves around Nevill's call to Bamber -

Nevill lets an upset Sheila go upstairs with a loaded rifle. Not impossible. But a 1% chance.

Nevill decides to ring Bamber at 3am. Not impossible but a 1% chance.

Bamber was 'sleeping like a log' but answers the downstairs phone within 15 seconds. Impossible.

Bamber answers the phone at the exact same time Sheila starts shooting June. Which is 15 seconds after Sheila goes upstairs.  Impossible.

Nevill hears the upstairs shots with one ear from a quiet rifle. Resulting in him only saying 11 words.   Maybe impossible (tests needed) or a 1% chance.


For me two 'impossibles' one 'maybe impossible' and two '1% chances in the space of less than a minute = Impossible.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1082 on: January 22, 2017, 02:23:PM »
Actually I have been typing continuously trying to keep up. To say I refuse is a broad brush.
If I may ask, is there anything that could change your mind, or would you happily have old Henri Pierrepoint hang him?
Bearing in mind he would be hanged in a heart beat in the golden 50's.

In you're own time. My 16 questions are in posts 1048 or 1063.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1083 on: January 22, 2017, 02:29:PM »
Actually I have been typing continuously trying to keep up. To say I refuse is a broad brush.
If I may ask, is there anything that could change your mind, or would you happily have old Henri Pierrepoint hang him?
Bearing in mind he would be hanged in a heart beat in the golden 50's.






 Samson,this is Adam's full-time job-----if you get my drift   ??? Hence his unnatural eagerness.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2017, 02:34:PM by lookout »

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1084 on: January 22, 2017, 02:34:PM »





 Samson,this is Adam's full-time job-----if you get my drift   ??? Hence his unnatural eagerness.
Welcome back Lookout x

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1085 on: January 22, 2017, 02:37:PM »
The most impossible points in the latest scenario again revolves around Nevill's call to Bamber -

Nevill lets an upset Sheila go upstairs with a loaded rifle. Not impossible. But a 1% chance.

Nevill decides to ring Bamber at 3am. Not impossible but a 1% chance.

Bamber was 'sleeping like a log' but answers the downstairs phone within 15 seconds. Impossible.

Bamber answers the phone at the exact same time Sheila starts shooting June. Not impossible but a 1% chance.

Nevill hears the upstairs shots with one ear from a quiet rifle. Resulting in him only saying 11 words.   Maybe impossible (tests needed) or a 1% chance.


All this occurred in the space of one minute. For me one 'impossible' one 'maybe impossible' and three '1% chances = Impossible.
Woolly thinking and exactly how I would never approach the crime. This is just how they argue in Bain.

Until Sheila takes the gun, Nevill doesn't anticipate this, but it can happen quickly. As I say, Sheila was downstairs messing with the buckets, and Nevill heard it, June did not. This is the only explanation for June being shot while asleep, and Nevill calling Jeremy at the same time.

15 seconds is a long period. Count it. Only Bamber could be the source of sleeping like a log. So he awoke and answered the phone. Where do you get that 1% from?
I have already stated that with Sheila's two children asleep, and just a woman upstairs, Nevill does not expect her to shoot. Sheila tended to the catatonic in recent weeks, maybe she said very little before taking the gun upstairs. However you look at it, June was shot. This would definitely be heard in a quiet house, and of course the silencer was in the cupboard remember, not on the gun, Nevill heads upstairs and she turns him back with gunfire. This fits the casing positions. By now there is no need for hand to hand combat, Nevill's shoulder is disfunctional. She can swing the rifle by the barrel to further disable him before reloading. She is nowhere near the blood or the mantlepiece underside. The finger nails remain intact but she does leave a toenail polish fragment. They are both barefoot because they have both come down from bed, Sheila to rinse her bloody knickers and Nevill to see what she is up to, but in fact probably thought intruder.
And so on and so forth.
Now, should he be hanged Adam? Are you sure enough I am wrong to hang him? You must answer that for the beyond reasonable doubt test.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1086 on: January 22, 2017, 02:39:PM »
Welcome back Lookout x




Thankyou justice. x

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1087 on: January 22, 2017, 02:44:PM »





 Samson,this is Adam's full-time job-----if you get my drift   ??? Hence his unnatural eagerness.
Now I see Adam is just 19 if his profile is correct. I suddenly feel old.
But I see hope, Adam may change his stance with sound reasoning and a fanatical devotion to science and logic. Others won't I know, sadly.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1088 on: January 22, 2017, 02:52:PM »
Can anyone explain to me why AP got about half the Bamber estate? Perhaps Hartley can help.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1089 on: January 22, 2017, 02:55:PM »
Now I see Adam is just 19 if his profile is correct. I suddenly feel old.
But I see hope, Adam may change his stance with sound reasoning and a fanatical devotion to science and logic. Others won't I know, sadly.




I can't imagine that every profile will have even " a ring of truth " about them,so seeing isn't always believing.
 

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1090 on: January 22, 2017, 02:55:PM »



Thankyou justice. x

hi lookout, welcome back. X

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1091 on: January 22, 2017, 02:57:PM »
hi lookout, welcome back. X





Aw,thankyou,Notsure. x

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1092 on: January 22, 2017, 03:06:PM »
Can anyone explain to me why AP got about half the Bamber estate? Perhaps Hartley can help.




Down the line,he was a blood relative as in the order of wills where there are siblings,they have as much right being next of kin to Pamela who was the deceased's sister. This is where a complication can arise if you don't know anything about wills. Siblings are counted as being next of kin along with brothers or sisters of the deceased. Per Stirpes is the term spoken in such wills.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1093 on: January 22, 2017, 03:14:PM »



Down the line,he was a blood relative as in the order of wills where there are siblings,they have as much right being next of kin to Pamela who was the deceased's sister. This is where a complication can arise if you don't know anything about wills. Siblings are counted as being next of kin along with brothers or sisters of the deceased. Per Stirpes is the term spoken in such wills.
Thanks Lookout, but did that entitle him to half rather than a share?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1094 on: January 22, 2017, 03:16:PM »
Now I see Adam is just 19 if his profile is correct. I suddenly feel old.
But I see hope, Adam may change his stance with sound reasoning and a fanatical devotion to science and logic. Others won't I know, sadly.





As a " 19 " year old and with the knowledge he's got,would you not think he'd have joined the police and then furthered his education for a higher position ? Afterall,he believes strongly in the law in this case.
Trouble is----we'd have far more MOJ's than we already have. :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))