Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[guest7363]

Do you think he wrote it himself Hartley? It's heartbreaking really what self-deception can do. I wonder if he still has those secret side-laughs or whether he has practised the deceit for so long he no longer thinks he's done anything wrong.

Steve, he knows his letters will be vetted and censored so he has practised the art of deception and manipulation.  His team would have helped to put this together to pull on the heartstrings and  hopefully gain more support.  What Caroline did was surprise the manipulater and he didn't want to play he realised Caroline didn't believe his lie's.

[David1819]

I think he knows exactly what he's done, there's no self deception other than he believes he is successfully fooling people with his stories (I guess that's actually true for some though). His deceit is continuous. You only need to look to his communications with Caroline for an example.

How? It would help if she posted them. People have asked multiple times and she refuses. 

Here is one example.

put them here. so we can all read them then could judge his faluire to reply much more clearly.

You must be joking! Write to him yourself and post your own letters. I have posted the relevant pieces when necessary. Talk about being nosey! 

Its safe to assume the contents are not what we are led to believe. 

Any luck on finding that imaginary ladder?

No. He enters the house, commits five murders, goes outside and gets a ladder from the shed, leans it against the bedroom window, goes back inside and locks the door. Goes upstairs, climbs out of the window and down the ladder, puts ladder back in shed.

[guest2181]

Steve, he knows his letters will be vetted and censored so he has practised the art of deception and manipulation.  His team would have helped to put this together to pull on the heartstrings and  hopefully gain more support.  What Caroline did was surprise the manipulater and he didn't want to play he realised Caroline didn't believe his lie's.

Even in his letters to Mike that are posted on the forum, you can see how he attempts to control and manipulate.

As you say, Caroline caught him off guard.

[Jane]

Steve, he knows his letters will be vetted and censored so he has practised the art of deception and manipulation.  His team would have helped to put this together to pull on the heartstrings and  hopefully gain more support.  What Caroline did was surprise the manipulater and he didn't want to play he realised Caroline didn't believe his lie's.

A very insightful deduction, that, Justice.

[Caroline]

Even in his letters to Mike that are posted on the forum, you can see how he attempts to control and manipulate.

As you say, Caroline caught him off guard.

He belittled Mike over his attempts to contact a psychic. I don't believe in all the BS myself BUT, his letter sounded afraid?

To be honest, no one was more shocked than me when he avoided answering but I have been around a LOT of liars and can spot one from a mile off.

[guest7363]

Even in his letters to Mike that are posted on the forum, you can see how he attempts to control and manipulate.

As you say, Caroline caught him off guard.

In jail he is surrounded with psychopaths and sociophath's who feel no empathy, they don't care what Bamber thinks or feels.  In Mike he found someone who cared and believed and once Mike was out of prison Bamber lost that control.

[David1819]

To be honest, no one was more shocked than me when he avoided answering but I have been around a LOT of liars and can spot one from a mile off.

Really? Then what happened here?

My dealings with MD have simply been an exchange of ideas and I have ALWAYS found him to be an honest and honorable man.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5844.msg259977.html#msg259977

Paul Harrison, honest and honourable? Oh Dear!

I have been around a LOT of liars and can spot one from a mile off.

[nugnug]

He belittled Mike over his attempts to contact a psychic. I don't believe in all the BS myself BUT, his letter sounded afraid?

To be honest, no one was more shocked than me when he avoided answering but I have been around a LOT of liars and can spot one from a mile off.

so not wanting to consult makes you guilty of murder does it  you should of of lived 300 years ago you could of had a good and well paid job.

[Steve_uk]

How? It would help if she posted them. People have asked multiple times and she refuses. 

Here is one example.

Its safe to assume the contents are not what we are led to believe. 

Any luck on finding that imaginary ladder?

If word gets out that his letters are being used for entertainment purposes then he is hardly likely to continue that correspondence.

[Caroline]

so not wanting to consult makes you guilty of murder does it  you should of of lived 300 years ago you could of had a good and well paid job.

Although you have NO IDEA what I am referring to, would you like to point out where I said 'nor consulting; makes you guilty of murder?

[Stephanie]

If word gets out that his letters are being used for entertainment purposes then he is hardly likely to continue that correspondence.

I disagree. Following SH's confession, he redacted it a couple of months later and sent out a handful of letters to people on the outside. I was made aware of one letter as the recipient contacted me.

With hindsight I believe he had hoped these letters would make it onto the WWW, after all what did he have to lose?

However what he failed to tell the recipients of the letters was that he was telling prison staff a different story.

Bamber will write to whoever he wants whenever he wants. Even if his letters are published. He has no shame. People like Bamber rely on the loyalty of others to keep the game playing going. He has no loyalties to anyone, as he has showed. He will throw any one under the bus, no matter who they are.

[Caroline]

If word gets out that his letters are being used for entertainment purposes then he is hardly likely to continue that correspondence.

I don't correspond with Bamber any more Steve. I learnt all I needed to.

[nugnug]

Although you have NO IDEA what I am referring to, would you like to point out where I said 'nor consulting; makes you guilty of murder?

try reading your own posts.

[Caroline]

try reading your own posts.

Try reading YOURS!

Thought you wouldn't be able to answer - just like you couldn't back up the claim that I had attacked you. 

[nugnug]

I don't correspond with Bamber any more Steve. I learnt all I needed to.

so theres no reason not to publish the letters then.