Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[Romeo]

So explain the cannabis in the safe. Giving up cigarettes doesn't mean giving up cannabis. Jeremy said they would get a surprise when they opened the safe.
Jeremy did not empty the contents of the wallet, the whole wallet went missing.

For a start.... what was JB doing looking in the safe anyway! Secondly..... Neville Bamber spoke to B Wilson in July 1985 about how ungrateful children could be ...before  mentioning a new hiding place was needed for the safe key.... Neville also asked Barbara Wilson if she would mind him having a cigarette in the office that day....something he didn't usually do, so he hadn't given up smoking. As Caroline said, the cannabis was put in safe after Neville confiscated it from his nephew. Or perhaps JB is lying again and it was confiscated from him!

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I wish I had his I.T. skills though..

I only had skills on the PCIS system when I worked at the hospital. Beyond that I'm rubbish but I'm not bothered,so I wouldn't worry if I were you.
I haven't even explored this laptop,which by all accounts it does everything bar make the tea. Oh,I can turn it into piano mode 

[Romeo]

My sentiments too,lebaleb.
 Everyone involved made doubly sure that the focus would be on Jeremy,and there it stayed without a second thought. " Taff " Jones should have gone into the tragedy far more than he had,then it wouldn't have created what we have now.
I don't doubt for a moment that he was wrong about his verdict of murder/suicide,but it wasn't enough in the mass killing to " wrap things up " and more or less slope off to do other things. As a " domestic " like " Taff " had said,he didn't look for a reason/reasons behind the killings.
I'd like to know the real truth behind the reason why a " top cop " left the case in charge of a sergeant  at the point when he had.
When there's a break,or you lose continuity of anything or anyone dealing with a specific matter of importance particularly in a case of murder then someone else takes over you usually find that others have different ideas,not always the right ones and confusion sets in. Continuity is vital from that same person in order for anything to go smoothly especially when they've known the case from the start.

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On entering WHF that fateful night every Police Officer believed Sheila had killed her family and committed suicide the focus wasn't placed on JB until later, that's why 'Taff Jones' was taken off the case because he wasn't prepared to look at any other option.

Especially when the person involved in the investigation took the opinion that it was a Murder/Suicide from the off set..... in other words believed the words of JB!

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Words ? What words ?

[David1819]

Stop responding to my posts David, I have no wish to discuss anything with you - you're far to odd and obsessed.

Then why are you responding to my posts in the first place? 

[David1819]

On entering WHF that fateful night every Police Officer believed Sheila had killed her family and committed suicide the focus wasn't placed on JB until later, that's why 'Taff Jones' was taken off the case because he wasn't prepared to look at any other option.

Especially when the person involved in the investigation took the opinion that it was a Murder/Suicide from the off set..... in other words believed the words of JB!

One month later they reviewed the evidence in the absence of Taff Jones. Its a big misconception that only Taff Jones thought Sheila was responsible.

[guest2181]

One month later they reviewed the evidence in the absence of Taff Jones. Its a big misconception that only Taff Jones thought Sheila was responsible.

Clearly many people initially thought or presumed Sheila was responsible. I don't think there is any misconception with that?

[Romeo]

Words ? What words ?

My father rang and said " Please come over your sister has gone crazy and has gun".

There's more as well.

[Romeo]

[quote author=Romeo link=topic=7101.msg375681#msg375681 date=147630727
One month later they reviewed the evidence in the absence of Taff Jones. Its a big misconception that only Taff Jones thought Sheila was responsible.
On entering WHF that fateful night every Police Officer believed Sheila had killed her family and committed suicide  [/quote]

Read the post David.....

[David1819]

Read the post David.....

It was more this I was reffering to.

that's why 'Taff Jones' was taken off the case because he wasn't prepared to look at any other option.

[guest2181]

It was more this I was reffering to.

that's why 'Taff Jones' was taken off the case because he wasn't prepared to look at any other option.

I think that's a fair assessment, Taff 's unwillingness to investigate further certainly does appear to be a reason for his replacement, does it not?

[lebaleb]

For a start.... what was JB doing looking in the safe anyway! Secondly..... Neville Bamber spoke to B Wilson in July 1985 about how ungrateful children could be ...before  mentioning a new hiding place was needed for the safe key.... Neville also asked Barbara Wilson if she would mind him having a cigarette in the office that day....something he didn't usually do, so he hadn't given up smoking. As Caroline said, the cannabis was put in safe after Neville confiscated it from his nephew. Or perhaps JB is lying again and it was confiscated from him!

If a magistrate confiscates cannabis from his/her nephew he/she is hardly likely to keep it for years in his/her safe. Where did you get all the information about Neville's conversation with BW?

[Jane]

Clearly many people initially thought or presumed Sheila was responsible. I don't think there is any misconception with that?

H., if we look a how that initial opinion was formed, we can only look to it's source which -even if we're prepared to believe Nevill's alleged call to the police-  was Jeremy.  The case -certainly the most important, if not the biggest Essex has ever handled- was discussed, at length, at a recent police funeral. All agreed that Jeremy was guilty.

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H., if we look a how that initial opinion was formed, we can only look to it's source which -even if we're prepared to believe Nevill's alleged call to the police-  was Jeremy.  The case -certainly the most important, if not the biggest Essex has ever handled- was discussed, at length, at a recent police funeral. All agreed that Jeremy was guilty.

Of course ALL " agreed that Jeremy was guilty " simply because there was not enough input to " Taff's " conclusion ( that we know of !?? ) so naturally it would have seemed/appeared that Jeremy had been guilty. As I've already said,that IF the FULL reason to the initial conclusion had been given ( possibly found in the Kinneally report ?-withheld ! ) then perhaps everyone would have had an insight into why it happened.

How easy is it to kick a man when he's down ? Very easy on here,second nature to most !!

[Jane]

Of course ALL " agreed that Jeremy was guilty " simply because there was not enough input to " Taff's " conclusion ( that we know of !?? ) so naturally it would have seemed/appeared that Jeremy had been guilty. As I've already said,that IF the FULL reason to the initial conclusion had been given ( possibly found in the Kinneally report ?-withheld ! ) then perhaps everyone would have had an insight into why it happened.

How easy is it to kick a man when he's down ? Very easy on here,second nature to most !!

How's about the simple gut feeling of experienced men who never supported Taff's conviction to the contrary? How often have you held your own gut feeling -based on your experience and going against your superiors- to be correct? You can't deny the same to others just because you don't agree.