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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #465 on: February 18, 2016, 03:18:PM »
I wouldn't want to see them for a start and sadly I've seen deceased children/babies who've died through illness and that was bad enough as nobody wants to lose a child.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #466 on: February 18, 2016, 04:01:PM »
I wouldn't want to see them for a start and sadly I've seen deceased children/babies who've died through illness and that was bad enough as nobody wants to lose a child.
I really can't see a way out of this lookout as those like-minded people who believe Jeremy innocent will surely push for everything to be put in the public domain.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #467 on: February 18, 2016, 04:29:PM »
I really can't see a way out of this lookout as those like-minded people who believe Jeremy innocent will surely push for everything to be put in the public domain.






It's a tough one Steve,I admit,but like Jeremy,I won't give up my support or optimism that the case will eventually be quashed.
Slowly but surely the much needed help is filtering through and it's all positive.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #468 on: February 26, 2016, 05:46:PM »
It would be so much easier if the blame could be laid on the shoulders of June, who, a victim of the fire and brimstone upbringing herself had communicated this philosophy to her daughter in the classic folie รก deux, though Jeremy had escaped and Colin tried valiently to extricate the twins from its harm.  So much neater if Jeremy were innocent, whether this in practice meant a full pardon, a verdict of not guilty following a retrial or simply that the original conviction was unsafe. Everyone would breathe a huge sigh of relief, I doubt anyone else would be punished and Jeremy could obtain a financial settlement he had fought for all along.

I assume in this scenario it is Sheila who is the guilty party (it's always a good bet to blame the dead as they cannot answer back). Sheila died but was spared a worse fate of transportation to Broadmoor and thence quietly forgotten as people picked up the shards of their shattered lives.

Of course it's Trudi who is responsible for opening up healed wounds as she converses in her new-found circle with the joys of friends and hearth, in the kitchen, at the local public house or in a wooded setting, but never once ventures outside her comfort zone: Trudi & Co. who after the small talk is complete rake over the harrowing details of this case as if they are the experts and hold the monopoly on truth. In reality it is Colin who hears the voices of his sons on the wind, vibrating in his ear, but who awakes to find the void, the delusion, which Jeremy bequeathed him.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #469 on: February 26, 2016, 05:59:PM »





It's a tough one Steve,I admit,but like Jeremy,I won't give up my support or optimism that the case will eventually be quashed.
Slowly but surely the much needed help is filtering through and it's all positive.

That's what they are saying but they aren't talking about ANY new evidence, they are repeating the old stuff - the stuff we were all talking about 4 years ago.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #470 on: February 26, 2016, 06:04:PM »
That's what they are saying but they aren't talking about ANY new evidence, they are repeating the old stuff - the stuff we were all talking about 4 years ago.
All they can do is keep the case in the public domain. There's really no thorough analysis from the likes of Trudi as to who may be guilty, as she ices her Victoria sandwich and ponders who is going to serve behind the counter at the Jeremy Bamber shop.

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« Reply #471 on: February 26, 2016, 06:07:PM »
All they can do is keep the case in the public domain. There's really no thorough analysis from the likes of Trudi as to who may be guilty, as she ices her Victoria sandwich and ponders who is going to serve behind the counter at the Jeremy Bamber shop.

That made me chuckle!  ;D ;D
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #472 on: February 26, 2016, 06:16:PM »
  A well put post Steve,though I'm sure you've noticed that Trudi is somewhat cautious in what she does say and is very diplomatic. This in my view,is because she will be holding back and it's very difficult not to let slip that which you know that is going to get Jeremy off the hook once and for all.
I'm pretty confident that all will come together at some point this year when all Hell will be let loose which will continue for weeks/months.

However,nothing to do with anything,but each video I've watched/listened to has got on my nerves. If it wasn't the sound of children running amok in the background,it was blowing a gale,then we had the damn fire crackling ( I was more interested in waiting for a spark to shoot out onto the shagpile ) and a noisy bar/restaurant with chattering,and the clanking of glasses. I can't wait for the next one-------maybe a brass-band striking up somewhere ?
I'm sure there's some way of blocking out background noise instead of having to strain,trying to hear what the speaker has to say.

Anyway,that's by the by,but the sooner that this comes to an end,then everyone can breathe easier,including Colin.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #473 on: February 26, 2016, 06:19:PM »
  A well put post Steve,though I'm sure you've noticed that Trudi is somewhat cautious in what she does say and is very diplomatic. This in my view,is because she will be holding back and it's very difficult not to let slip that which you know that is going to get Jeremy off the hook once and for all.
I'm pretty confident that all will come together at some point this year when all Hell will be let loose which will continue for weeks/months.

However,nothing to do with anything,but each video I've watched/listened to has got on my nerves. If it wasn't the sound of children running amok in the background,it was blowing a gale,then we had the damn fire crackling ( I was more interested in waiting for a spark to shoot out onto the shagpile ) and a noisy bar/restaurant with chattering,and the clanking of glasses. I can't wait for the next one-------maybe a brass-band striking up somewhere ?
I'm sure there's some way of blocking out background noise instead of having to strain,trying to hear what the speaker has to say.

Anyway,that's by the by,but the sooner that this comes to an end,then everyone can breathe easier,including Colin.
My hunch is that Colin wants a quiet life, to grieve for his sons in private and for none of the White House Farm tragedy to spill over into the new life he has managed to create for himself.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #474 on: February 26, 2016, 06:23:PM »
That made me chuckle!  ;D ;D





I love his posts.So droll. :)) :))

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #475 on: February 26, 2016, 06:26:PM »
  A well put post Steve,though I'm sure you've noticed that Trudi is somewhat cautious in what she does say and is very diplomatic. This in my view,is because she will be holding back and it's very difficult not to let slip that which you know that is going to get Jeremy off the hook once and for all.
I'm pretty confident that all will come together at some point this year when all Hell will be let loose which will continue for weeks/months.

However,nothing to do with anything,but each video I've watched/listened to has got on my nerves. If it wasn't the sound of children running amok in the background,it was blowing a gale,then we had the damn fire crackling ( I was more interested in waiting for a spark to shoot out onto the shagpile ) and a noisy bar/restaurant with chattering,and the clanking of glasses. I can't wait for the next one-------maybe a brass-band striking up somewhere ?
I'm sure there's some way of blocking out background noise instead of having to strain,trying to hear what the speaker has to say.

Anyway,that's by the by,but the sooner that this comes to an end,then everyone can breathe easier,including Colin.

If, by "this comes to an end" you mean that Jeremy's conviction is -AGAIN- deemed to be safe, I feel sure Colin will breathe a huge sigh of relief. Not for a moment do I believe that the release of the man who murdered his sons will suddenly mean he DIDN'T murder them.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #476 on: February 26, 2016, 06:28:PM »




I love his posts.So droll. :)) :))


Very subtle :)) :))

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #477 on: February 26, 2016, 06:32:PM »
If, by "this comes to an end" you mean that Jeremy's conviction is -AGAIN- deemed to be safe, I feel sure Colin will breathe a huge sigh of relief. Not for a moment do I believe that the release of the man who murdered his sons will suddenly mean he DIDN'T murder them.






It's slowly but surely dawning on many that his conviction is unsafe and I'm sure that once it has been proved so,there'll be yet another outcry about the CJS as it stands. To be hoped that this proof is something that we've all missed along the way.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #478 on: February 26, 2016, 06:39:PM »





It's slowly but surely dawning on many that his conviction is unsafe and I'm sure that once it has been proved so,there'll be yet another outcry about the CJS as it stands. To be hoped that this proof is something that we've all missed along the way.

But there is nothing to prove it's unsafe and to my knowledge, it isn't possible to prove a negative, ie HOW would it be possible to prove Nevill didn't call the police?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #479 on: February 26, 2016, 06:47:PM »
But there is nothing to prove it's unsafe and to my knowledge, it isn't possible to prove a negative, ie HOW would it be possible to prove Nevill didn't call the police?
It's impossible. As long as you tell yourself a million times over you're not guilty and fail to answer any of the questions which might cause a flashback to recur you are free to live an unblemished existence, though in limbo from the confines of a prison cell.