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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2015, 04:46:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 30, 2015, 04:40:PM
Do you know anything about Shaker Aamer and how he ended up in Guantanamo. I suggest you read up on him before making assumptions. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34675324

I thought you were interested in MOJ? You are certainly quick to condemn this man!
He still left his family in the UK and travelled to Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. Why on earth did he do so?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2015, 04:52:PM »
Quote from: Steve_uk on October 30, 2015, 04:46:PM
He still left his family in the UK and travelled to Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. Why on earth did he do so?

Perhaps before judging, people should wait to hear his story?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2015, 04:53:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 30, 2015, 04:40:PM
Do you know anything about Shaker Aamer and how he ended up in Guantanamo. I suggest you read up on him before making assumptions. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34675324

I thought you were interested in MOJ? You are certainly quick to condemn this man!






I draw the line at MOJ's concerning someone from Saudi Arabia.This guy reckoned he was working for a charity organisation yet he was non-committant when questioned and faced a bashing rather than speak.
I don't need nor want to read anything concerning this man or anyone else of that ilk.
Let's sit and wait while he settles himself back into this mad country and wait for the fireworks.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2015, 04:54:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 30, 2015, 04:53:PM





I draw the line at MOJ's concerning someone from Saudi Arabia.This guy reckoned he was working for a charity organisation yet he was non-committant when questioned and faced a bashing rather than speak.
I don't need nor want to read anything concerning this man or anyone else of that ilk.
Let's sit and wait while he settles himself back into this mad country and wait for the fireworks.

What??  ;D

Would it be different he was white, Lookout?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2015, 04:56:PM »
Quote from: mat on October 30, 2015, 04:54:PM
What??  ;D

Would it be different he was white, Lookout?






No different at all I'm afraid because I was the same when Ireland kicked off in the 60's.
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Offline Caroline

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #95 on: October 30, 2015, 04:57:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 30, 2015, 04:53:PM





I draw the line at MOJ's concerning someone from Saudi Arabia.This guy reckoned he was working for a charity organisation yet he was non-committant when questioned and faced a bashing rather than speak.
I don't need nor want to read anything concerning this man or anyone else of that ilk.
Let's sit and wait while he settles himself back into this mad country and wait for the fireworks.

Then you are making an ill informed judgement and I won't comment on the rest. Sorry Lookout BUT I'm just glad not everyone thinks this way but the reason the world is in such a shitty state, is because 'some' people do.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #96 on: October 30, 2015, 04:58:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 30, 2015, 04:53:PM





I draw the line at MOJ's concerning someone from Saudi Arabia.This guy reckoned he was working for a charity organisation yet he was non-committant when questioned and faced a bashing rather than speak.
I don't need nor want to read anything concerning this man or anyone else of that ilk.
Let's sit and wait while he settles himself back into this mad country and wait for the fireworks.






Their allegiance remain with their own regardless !
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #97 on: October 30, 2015, 05:08:PM »
1,000 signatures have been reached for Mr Gove.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #98 on: October 30, 2015, 05:08:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 30, 2015, 04:53:PM





I draw the line at MOJ's concerning someone from Saudi Arabia.This guy reckoned he was working for a charity organisation yet he was non-committant when questioned and faced a bashing rather than speak.
I don't need nor want to read anything concerning this man or anyone else of that ilk.
Let's sit and wait while he settles himself back into this mad country and wait for the fireworks.

So being non committing when questioned is a sign of guilt, is it?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #99 on: October 30, 2015, 05:11:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 30, 2015, 05:08:PM
So being non committing when questioned is a sign of guilt, is it?

Brilliant.  ;D

Quote from: lookout on October 30, 2015, 05:08:PM
1,000 signatures have been reached for Mr Gove.

Signed also by people who think Bamber is guilty, let's not forget.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #100 on: October 30, 2015, 05:11:PM »
Quote from: Steve_uk on October 30, 2015, 04:37:PM
I can think of two examples offhand: the Paul Burrell case where the Queen stepped in to avoid anyone from the Royal Family having to appear in the witness box. The other example more recently was the Queen intervening in the Scottish referendum by telling people outside church to "be careful what you wish for".

I applaud Mike's attempts at being a thorn in the Establishment's side because there's nothing more they want than an easy ride when they travel back to their second homes full of servants at the weekend.

Burrell was cleared because the Queen herself cleared him:

"The trial of Mr Burrell, who was accused of stealing items belonging to Diana, Princess of Wales, collapsed on Friday after the Queen's disclosure of a conversation with Mr Burrell in which the former butler told her that he had taken items from Diana's home for safekeeping."

Far from him stealing items and hoping no one would notice the Queen said he admitted to her he took them and told her he did so to protect the property.  That negates the notion he intended to steal the property.

Are you suggesting she lied to protect him?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2015, 05:13:PM »
Quote from: scipio_usmc on October 30, 2015, 05:11:PM
Burrell was cleared because the Queen herself cleared him:

"The trial of Mr Burrell, who was accused of stealing items belonging to Diana, Princess of Wales, collapsed on Friday after the Queen's disclosure of a conversation with Mr Burrell in which the former butler told her that he had taken items from Diana's home for safekeeping."

Far from him stealing items and hoping no one would notice the Queen said he admitted to her he took them and told her he did so to protect the property.  That negates the notion he intended to steal the property.

Are you suggesting she lied to protect him?

Of course not! That would be treason!  :o :o :o
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2015, 05:15:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 30, 2015, 05:08:PM
So being non committing when questioned is a sign of guilt, is it?





In this case-yes.
If all he was doing was charity work,why didn't he say ? What would you have done, told the truth or chanced torture.? Remember,it wasn't a courtroom,he hadn't been charged,etc etc,so why hold back ? 
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2015, 05:21:PM »
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In this case-yes.
If all he was doing was charity work,why didn't he say ? What would you have done, told the truth or chanced torture.? Remember,it wasn't a courtroom,he hadn't been charged,etc etc,so why hold back ?

It just seems to me that you're denying him the benefit of the doubt that you give Jeremy in bucket loads.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2015, 05:24:PM »
Quote from: mat on October 30, 2015, 05:11:PM
Brilliant.  ;D

Signed also by people who think Bamber is guilty, let's not forget.





That's right. It's like a snub towards our system that the law got it wrong.
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