Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?

[Steve_uk]

Sounds like you missed her reading Bambers letter at the graveside?

That was appalling, whatever side of the coin you're on.

[lookout]

You would think he'd been caught driving 35mph in a 30 mile zone. Where is their evidence and how did they draw their conclusions? By the way, are you Essex folk going to forgive John Whittingdale for his indiscretions?

Never did like that bloke. Where was he looking to find Slack Alice ??

[Jane]

You would think he'd been caught driving 35mph in a 30 mile zone. Where is their evidence and how did they draw their conclusions? By the way, are you Essex folk going to forgive John Whittingdale for his indiscretions?

Actually Steve, I can fully understand why the lady in question resorted to the comparative privacy of a dating site. She could hardly use her client base to select a permanent partner. I'm inclined to be far LESS forgiving of a certain Essex "peer" who was imprisoned as part of the false claims saga.

[Stephanie]

That was appalling, whatever side of the coin you're on.

I don't believe for one minute Bamber wasn't behind that! Only a couple of weeks before SH confessed, he had hand written a letter for the surviving relatives of his victim. It was to be published upon the overturning of his conviction. I believed the letter at the time. 

[lookout]

That was appalling, whatever side of the coin you're on.

I would have imagined that Trudi got permission from JB first. You don't just go to people's gravesides and start spouting about them to the w.w.w for no reason.

Although I personally admit it was a wrong move because nobody is interested in sob-stories coming from prisoners. They've heard it all before and tend to take no notice. That's my view anyway.

[Stephanie]

I would have imagined that Trudi got permission from JB first. You don't just go to people's gravesides and start spouting about them to the w.w.w for no reason.

Although I personally admit it was a wrong move because nobody is interested in sob-stories coming from prisoners. They've heard it all before and tend to take no notice. That's my view anyway.

Yet you listen to Bambers when he writes to you?

[lookout]

Yet you listen to Bambers when he writes to you?

How do you know ? I don't listen to anyone-----------------never have.

[Steve_uk]

Do you think Trudi has her own agenda, is genuine, misguided or wishes to incite controversy?

[lookout]

 I think Trudi means well but she isn't giving any information out,such as we see in Scott Lomax's book for instance. She's not explaining anything about the case itself.

[Stephanie]

Do you think Trudi has her own agenda, is genuine, misguided or wishes to incite controversy?

I'd say she was misguided and quite possibly has an agenda of some sort..

I think Trudi means well but she isn't giving any information out,such as we see in Scott Lomax's book for instance. She's not explaining anything about the case itself.

She is giving information out about the case but it's biased. She doesn't appear to have a full understanding of the case from both sides. She believe Bamber is innocent so that's that. Her bias doesn't allow her to look at the alternative. Plus she's met with Bamber and has regular contact with him and appears to have been taken in by him.

[lookout]

 It's not the age for " being taken in by anyone " given that news is reported on a daily basis about being conned by some low-life. People are far more alerted to this practice than ever before because of warnings given out about every commodity and of people themselves who pose as beggars and who are not.

Trudi is no fool and good for her for going to see him because it's not until you meet and talk face to face that you get the overall feeling whether you're being taken for a ride or not.
I'm more than aware that some people can be convincing and it's up to your " expertise " to get a" feeling "about that person.

It's the same " feeling " that you get when you take an instant dislike to someone when signals in your brain tell you that all is not as it seems. It's a sense that doesn't readily develop if you've not had experience of a broad spectrum of the public. Children are vulnerable in this respect at not having developed these senses.Animals are more advanced when it comes to sensing.

[lookout]

 The only ones with an agenda are those who say he's guilty. Busy beavering in the background to try and block the idea of another appeal. Will they succeed against the law like RWB did ? We'll see.

[Stephanie]

It's not the age for " being taken in by anyone " given that news is reported on a daily basis about being conned by some low-life. People are far more alerted to this practice than ever before because of warnings given out about every commodity and of people themselves who pose as beggars and who are not.

Trudi is no fool and good for her for going to see him because it's not until you meet and talk face to face that you get the overall feeling whether you're being taken for a ride or not.
I'm more than aware that some people can be convincing and it's up to your " expertise " to get a" feeling "about that person.

It's the same " feeling " that you get when you take an instant dislike to someone when signals in your brain tell you that all is not as it seems. It's a sense that doesn't readily develop if you've not had experience of a broad spectrum of the public. Children are vulnerable in this respect at not having developed these senses.Animals are more advanced when it comes to sensing.

What is the age then? Age doesn't come into it.

What makes you think yours feelings are superior to others therefore you won't be conned by anyone?

And being a fool doesn't come into it either. It's far more complex than that and probably why you don't understand. Psychopaths blend in. They don't have signs on their foreheads. They can be charming and extremely clued up. Their skills of manipulation are like no other.

[lookout]

What is the age then? Age doesn't come into it.

What makes you think yours feelings are superior to others therefore you won't be conned by anyone?

And being a fool doesn't come into it either. It's far more complex than that and probably why you don't understand. Psychopaths blend in. They don't have signs on their foreheads. They can be charming and extremely clued up. Their skills of manipulation are like no other.

 Age=era. 21st century.

[Stephanie]

It's not the age for " being taken in by anyone " given that news is reported on a daily basis about being conned by some low-life. People are far more alerted to this practice than ever before because of warnings given out about every commodity and of people themselves who pose as beggars and who are not.

Trudi is no fool and good for her for going to see him because it's not until you meet and talk face to face that you get the overall feeling whether you're being taken for a ride or not.
I'm more than aware that some people can be convincing and it's up to your " expertise " to get a" feeling "about that person.

It's the same " feeling " that you get when you take an instant dislike to someone when signals in your brain tell you that all is not as it seems. It's a sense that doesn't readily develop if you've not had experience of a broad spectrum of the public. Children are vulnerable in this respect at not having developed these senses.Animals are more advanced when it comes to sensing.

What is the age then? Age doesn't come into it.

What makes you think yours feelings are superior to others therefore you won't be conned by anyone?

And being a fool doesn't come into it either. It's far more complex than that and probably why you don't understand. Psychopaths blend in. They don't have signs on their foreheads. They can be charming and extremely clued up. Their skills of manipulation are like no other.

 Age=era. 21st century.

So in the 21st century according to you, no one get taken in by people anymore because "given that news is reported on a daily basis about being conned by some low-life. People are far more alerted to this practice than ever before because of warnings given out about every commodity and of people themselves who pose as beggars and who are not.

Totally disagree with you lookout. Con artists do not present as 'low lifes' nor are people aware of the signs to look out for when being conned, as research shows - Psychopathy is not widely known about or indeed understood...


Further;

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Therefore your statement, "People are far more alerted to this practice than ever before because of warnings given out about every commodity and of people themselves who pose as beggars and who are not  - holds no weight.