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Offline Janet ((Formerly known as Takeshi))

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1680 on: January 31, 2020, 01:26:AM »
Very strange.

Makes me wonder what else, if anything, might be different between the two books...
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1681 on: January 31, 2020, 01:30:AM »
They're in Chapter 25.

Steve when you origanally posted the letters in 2015, did you get the text from your hardback copy of CC's book?
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1682 on: January 31, 2020, 01:33:AM »
Steve when you origanally posted the letters in 2015, did you get the text from your hardback copy of CC's book?

There is more. I am looking. Stay tuned 

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1683 on: January 31, 2020, 01:38:AM »
There is more. I am looking. Stay tuned

Oh good :) ...
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1684 on: January 31, 2020, 01:48:AM »
Oh good :) ...

There is another paragraph in that letter omitted, I have put it in bold black.

"DEAR COLIN

I READ THE ARTICLE IN YESTERDAY'S INDEPENDENT WITH MUCH SADNESS,THE SAME SADNESS I ALWAYS FEEL WHEN I READ ABOUT YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

YOUR LETTER TODAY,COLIN,WAS I'M AFRAID A TOUCH PREMATURE.YOU'RE WRITING TO ME HOPING,I GUESS,FOR THE LAST FEW PIECES OF THE JIGSAW SO THAT YOU MAY HOLD THE PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPENED IS NOT POSSIBLE.
IF I COULD FURNISH YOU WITH WHAT YOU WANTED THEN I WOULD GLADLY DO SO-WHATEVER HAPPENED THAT FATEFUL NIGHT WILL NEVER BE FULLY EXPLAINED,IN FACT YOU COULD PROBABLY TELL ME MORE THAN I COULD YOU.

THE PAPER DID MENTION IN THE ARTICLE YESTERDAY THAT I WAS APPEALING AND NO DOUBT YOU KNEW THAT ANYWAY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACT WHEN THEY QUASH MY CONVICTION ,COLIN,BECAUSE IT'S VERY PROBABLE THEY WILL DO SO? YOU MAY BELIEVE ME GUILTY,YOU MAY NOT,BUT I HOPE THAT IF NOTHING ELSE YOU'LL TRY AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND BECAUSE AT MY APPEAL I WILL PROVE MY INNOCENCE AND BY DOING THAT THE CORNER-STONE OF THE PROSECUTION EVIDENCE WAS FABRICATED,BY WHOM I CAN'T PROVE YET AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO DO SO FOR MY APPEAL BUT EVENTUALLY I'LL FIND OUT BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY BE ONE OF FIVE PEOPLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M TALKING RIDDLES AND I'M SORRY THAT I CAN'T EXPLAIN IN A LETTER TO YOU.IT SEEMS SO POINTLESS IN ME SENDING YOU THIS LETTER AS IT'LL ONLY ADD TO YOUR CONFUSION BUT FOR YOU TO WRITE TO ME MUST HAVE TAKEN A GREAT DEAL SO MY REPLYING IS THE LEAST I CAN DO..

IN THE SAME WAY THAT YOU QUESTION WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT SHEILA IN THE NEWSPAPERS SO YOU SHOULD QUESTION WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT ME - I'M NOT GAY OR BI-SEXUAL, I WASN'T A COCAINE SMUGGLER, I DIDN'T KNOW HALF THE PEOPLE I'D BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH, I DIDN'T BREAK SOMEONE'S ARM AT SCHOOL, I DIDN'T KITE CHEQUES AND I DIDN'T RAPE JULIE. WHAT OTHER ODIOUS STUFF THEY WROTE I CAN'T RECALL EVEN DURING MY TRIAL THEY COULDN'T GET IT RIGHT I WON'T GO ON. YOU KNOW ME AND WHAT I WAS LIKE AND I DIDN'T WRITE TO CONVINCE YOU OF MY INNOCENCE EVEN THOUGH I AM, JUST WELL WHATEVER


LOVE JEREMY
P.S. I TRULY WISH I COULD HELP YOU.
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Only the red text is in the 2020 version. Why?
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Offline Janet ((Formerly known as Takeshi))

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1685 on: January 31, 2020, 02:02:AM »
There is another paragraph in that letter omitted, I have put it in bold black.


Only the red text is in the 2020 version. Why?

Thank you David! Interesting...Why? indeed
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1686 on: January 31, 2020, 02:10:AM »
Thank you David! Interesting...Why? indeed

I had a premonition that this would happen.

I only have copies of the pages that contain JB letters of the 1990s publication. So I cannot check much else.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1687 on: January 31, 2020, 02:17:AM »
I had a premonition that this would happen.

I only have copies of the pages that contain JB letters in the 1994 publication. So I cannot check much else.

Sadly, I have never had a copy of the original hardback book. Although I have tried on and off over the last 10 years to get one.
At the beginning of January, I said on this forum that I hoped the text of the original book would not be edited in the new edition...I remeber it went down like a lead balloon! As if I was making a personal attack on Colin, which I was not.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1688 on: January 31, 2020, 02:31:AM »
Sadly, I have never had a copy of the original hardback book. Although I have tried on and off over the last 10 years to get one.
At the beginning of January, I said on this forum that I hoped the text of the original book would not be edited in the new edition...I remeber it went down like a lead balloon! As if I was making a personal attack on Colin, which I was not.

The part you highlighted in blue does appear in the origional. It just was not in the text post.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1689 on: January 31, 2020, 02:46:AM »
Colin wrote -

"It was established that the silencer was attached to the rifle during the fierce fight in the kitchen, when Nevill was killed, and that blood found on the inside of the silencer matched Bambs’s blood group, indicating that it had been fitted to the rifle when she was shot. It had got there by a process known as ‘back-spattering’ – a phenomenon which occurs when a firearm is discharged against flesh beneath which blood is flowing. There was no blood found in the muzzle of the barrel of the rifle, only in the silencer. Of all the twenty-five wounds, the only one that could produce such a large quantity of ‘back-spatter’ was the final, fatal wound to the soft tissue below Bambs’s chin, an area that had been saturated with blood from an earlier shot that had lacerated the jugular vein in her neck. This was the only certain contact wound with an available supply of blood."

Its a shame he believe's this. However I cannot blame him for believing it.  :(

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1690 on: January 31, 2020, 07:13:PM »
I think I have Colin’s original book in hardback version somewhere if it’s of any use ?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1691 on: January 31, 2020, 09:01:PM »
Steve when you origanally posted the letters in 2015, did you get the text from your hardback copy of CC's book?
Yes. Why do you ask?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1692 on: January 31, 2020, 09:10:PM »
Yes. Why do you ask?

Just wanted to confirm that's all. David and I were comparing the original book with the new edition, as you can see discussed above.
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1693 on: January 31, 2020, 09:11:PM »
Just wanted to confirm that's all. David and I were comparing the original book with the new edition, as you can see discussed above.
What is the reason for being so bitter against Colin, yet silent on Julie?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1694 on: January 31, 2020, 09:13:PM »
Just wanted to confirm that's all. David and I were comparing the original book with the new edition, as you can see discussed above.

Colin explains what the rest of the letters entailed, he just doesn't republish the entire thing.
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