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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1380 on: March 11, 2017, 06:00:PM »
It crushed her jaw didn't it? Or was that the second? It amazes me how seemingly respectable individuals, usually though not exclusively of a scientific bent, fall for the charm of the seducer. I'm always concerned when someone states nonchalantly: "Jeremy is my friend."
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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1381 on: March 11, 2017, 06:05:PM »



Sheila was lithesome and would have been aware of any clutter so would have avoided any unnecessary noise in flitting up the stairs. The first bullet wasn't in her head !

You're right, for once. It shattered two vertebrae.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1382 on: March 11, 2017, 06:07:PM »
It crushed her jaw didn't it? Or was that the second? It amazes me how seemingly respectable individuals, usually though not exclusively of a scientific bent, fall for the charm of the seducer. I'm always concerned when someone states nonchalantly: "Jeremy is my friend."

From what I've been told, Jeremy's best friend was Jeremy. He made use of those who were useful to him until such time as they weren't.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1383 on: May 13, 2017, 08:27:PM »
"When Maggie talked about palmistry and the tarot we were all fascinated and very keen to have our hands read but personally I was very reticent about the tarot cards; they frightened the s*** out of me. In fact, ever since I could remember I have steered well clear of anything relating to what I thought of as the occult, black magic or death. To my mind the tarot fitted into the heavier side of the occult, and as such, commanded a lot of respect. I didn't realize then that the term "occult" meant virtually anything esoteric that was not connected to the Christian dogma-including Gnosticism, which was one of the earliest forms of Christianity.

The real question, in my opinion, is down to the motives behind the use of these tools: whether the practitioner is using them to empower, in that they are helping an individual to access unique information about themselves (like a modern computer database), which might enable that person to prepare for oncoming challenges-information they have every right to. Or whether those practices are being used to have power over another person or group.

Without a doubt it is the latter that causes me concern-even more so now. The same goes for ritual. There are both positive and negative rituals, which either serve to celebrate a higher purpose or to have power over others. My fear of black magic was a healthy fear and remains so. By the same token, I am equally fearful of extremism within any established religion. There is not a lot of difference.

With Maggie I felt no such threat. She revelled in our attention and would often keep us sitting up half the night with the promise of a reading. When we finally did strike lucky, at about six o' clock one morning, Maggie read my hands first and then Bambs'. The other two tenants had given up and gone to bed. For some reason she seemed totally uninterested in doing theirs yet very keen to do ours.

I had tremendous feelings of apprehension as we sat in Maggie's semi-darkened living room and she reached across the dark velvet-covered table for my hands. One thing I always loved about Maggie was her wonderful sense of the theatrical but I also noticed that her personality changed quite dramatically when she was working. She lost her normal disorganized and affected nature and took on a persona which was both serious and quite formidable. She had already explained that anybody could learn to read hands or the tarot but that she used them only as a focus to tune in, clairvoyantly, to her subject.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1384 on: May 13, 2017, 08:31:PM »
It crushed her jaw didn't it? Or was that the second? It amazes me how seemingly respectable individuals, usually though not exclusively of a scientific bent, fall for the charm of the seducer. I'm always concerned when someone states nonchalantly: "Jeremy is my friend."

Care to explain how Jeremy coerced Shelia into writing a five page suicide note?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1385 on: May 13, 2017, 08:33:PM »
"The reading I'll be giving you consists of three parts," she said. "The first will relate to the past, the second to the present and the third to the future." She then told us that in order to gauge the distance in time any one reading goes into the future, it is necessary to measure how far back into the past the first part goes. This can only be done by relating recognizable incidents to the sitter. The rime span between past and present will always be the same as the present in relation to the future. It was all to do with Time being a continuous spiral across the loops of which she could pick up echoes. She later explained that with most people the time span in reading was only a year or so at the most, but with Bambs and I it seemed to go much further back.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1386 on: May 13, 2017, 08:35:PM »
Care to explain how Jeremy coerced Shelia into writing a five page suicide note?
There's always the power of suggestion from an individual to someone in psychosis or catatonia. Would you care to explain how the bedroom telephone was moved beforehand and how Sheila unscrewed the sights from the murder weapon?

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1387 on: May 13, 2017, 08:40:PM »
As Maggie looked at my hands she would occasionally stop talking, close her eyes and start rocking gently from side to side for short periods; sometimes she rocked backwards and forwards. Every time she opened her eyes and came out of these little trances she would make some quite outstanding revelations about my past, things she couldn't possibly have known about. The one that finally convinced me was to do with the circumstances surrounding an incident in my early teens when I broke a finger. I should first explain, however, that the little finger on my right hand is crooked and looks as if it has been broken at some point but is not actually the one that is broken.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1388 on: May 13, 2017, 08:51:PM »
As she held my hands she told me that I had once broken the bone in my little finger and I thought: "Aha, I've caught you!"

"The one on the left hand," she said, "and you broke it during a game of football which you didn't want to be part of; in fact you were bullied into the game." I sat there speechless as she rocked a little more and then said, "You weren't in goal, were you? That's what I'm getting." Then she added, "To look at you, I would have put you as a centre forward."

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1389 on: May 13, 2017, 08:55:PM »
She had just described exactly an event going back to when I was about eleven or twelve years old. I had in fact been bullied into a game of football by one of the worst local thugs, who told me to stand in goal. On my first attempt to stop a ball it hit my left hand against the fence behind me and broke the little finger; an insignificant fracture but a significant revelation, after which Bambs and I sat and listened instantly to everything else she had to say.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1390 on: May 13, 2017, 08:56:PM »
There's always the power of suggestion from an individual to someone in psychosis or catatonia. Would you care to explain how the bedroom telephone was moved beforehand and how Sheila unscrewed the sights from the murder weapon?

There is no evidence that the garbled notes are a suicide letter.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1391 on: May 13, 2017, 09:00:PM »
There's always the power of suggestion from an individual to someone in psychosis or catatonia. Would you care to explain how the bedroom telephone was moved beforehand and how Sheila unscrewed the sights from the murder weapon?





I don't think the sights were on the rifle Steve.
The telephone would have been moved in case it rang and disturbed the twins. Anyone could have moved it for that purpose. As it happened Pam rang anyway when the boys would have been in bed.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1392 on: May 13, 2017, 09:13:PM »
Maggie then told me that I would be successful but not in the field I was then studying; she was getting images of what looked to her like a sculptor's armature and that this related, very strongly, to an unexpected achievement of mine during my early teens. I had, apparently. done or made something in such a way that my family were surprised I even had the knowledge, at that age, to do it. Of the many things she told me, most of which I can't remember, this stuck in my mind as a bit of a mystery and-apart from that fact that I had made a figure of a semi-naked Red Indian girl kneeling on the ground about then-in many ways it still does.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1393 on: May 13, 2017, 09:15:PM »
Maggie then went on to say that I would have two children, both boys, although one of them might be a girl or certainly very feminine. She also said that I would live into my mid-eighties. At this point, Bambs asked her if she could see how a person was going to die or whether she would actually tell anyone the circumstances of their death.

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Re: Who has more rights thirty years on: Jeremy or Colin?
« Reply #1394 on: May 13, 2017, 09:19:PM »
"I can see an awful lot of things," said Maggie, "but I will only tell a person what they mainly need to know. There is no constructive purpose in knowing how one is going to die, it would be too distressing and could even prevent someone from getting on with their life properly. In the circumstances of an early or traumatic death I would probably tell a lie if I had to or not mention it at all."