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Offline Jane

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Barbara Wilson?

Princess Diana?


Well, now you mention it......................

Offline Caroline

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Barbara Wilson?

Princess Diana?

Brett Collins? Well Mike did say she isn't 'womanly'  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Offline mike tesko

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Which press? Had that happened it would have appeared at least one newspaper but there is nothing on record.

No, sorry but the press were banned by the injunction taken out from running any cover story, and ordered to leave the mother and her family alone...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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No, sorry but the press were banned by the injunction taken out from running any cover story, and ordered to leave the mother and her family alone...

A super injunction?  :o :o
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After confirmation that Jeremy had fathered a daughter, there was a leak of confidential information, and the child's mother was hounded by the press, for a period of six months, but took legal action and has since been left alone. The taking of the legal action by the mother of Jeremy's daughter, it effected the manner with which Jeremy pursued the civil case against the relatives in the Mabel Speakman claim. This action served to deprive June Bambers grand daughter, and Mabel Speakmans great grand daughter from her rightful entitlement as a benefactor in the estates of June Bamber, and her mother, Mabel Speakman - it angers me that it has come down to this. The way I see it, it has turned into another massive injustice, on the grand daughter, and great grand daughters, behalf...

So it wasn't much of a secret if someone leaked it to the press. I don't recall seeing ANYTHING about it in the local press,and a journalist friend, who, at the time, owned a press agency and covered the massacre, never said anything about it, which is quite odd given that he shared with me information, that when it was released two years later, was so huge that shocked the whole Country.

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A super injunction?  :o :o


Caroline, aren't these super injunctions a very new thing?

Offline mike tesko

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No, sorry but the press were banned by the injunction taken out from running any cover story, and ordered to leave the mother and her family alone...

This is apparently why Jeremy did not proceed with any action at that stage (2003), after he lost his own entitlement as a benefactor to granny Speakmans estate. I do know that Jeremy wanted his daughter to enjoy the financial benefits afforded to her as a benefactor once she reached the qualifying age, but legally his hands were tied. The decision to take out the injunction to prevent the mother and daughter being named forced a wedge between Jeremy, and the mother of his daughter, and as far as I know contact between all parties suffered as a result of it. I continued to visit the mother who lives in xxxxxxxxxx until 2004, but have not seen her since then...
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As most will have noted, there does not appear to be a defining moment mentioning the exact time in the police logs about when the raid team first set foot upstairs, and leaving the downstairs rooms already fully searched. This is odd. In operations like this, police almost always record events by reference to specific time. But in this instance, the content of police logs makes no such distinction, other than stating, at 7.37am, "THE BODY OF ONE DEAD MALE", and " THE BODY OF ONE DEAD FEMALE, FOUND ON ENTRY", then at 8.10am, "AFTER A THOROUGH SEARCH OF THE PREMISES, A FURTHER THREE BODIES FOUND UPSTAIRS, FIVE DEAD IN TOTAL"...

I for one, do not accept that a great deal of time had passed between the reported discovery, of " the body of one dead male", occurring, and the mention in the same breath, as " and the body of one dead female, found upon entry", was made. The gap between the finding of "the body of the dead male", and the finding of " the body of the dead female", seems minimal, not drawn out. The alleged sequence of events spoken about in the contents of the dodgy Woodcock, 13 page, witness statement, dated, 20th September, 1985,  seem to be referring to a long drawn out sequence of events, between entry into the main kitchen and the discovery of Ralph Bambers body, (a) the search of the spiral staircase in the corner of the kitchen, (b) the exit of the main kitchen and searches of the laundry room, and downstairs office, (c) up the back stairs, into a storeroom, (d) search the upstairs office, (e) be confronted by a locked door panel leading to the other part of the upstairs side of the house (bolted on other side of panel), (f) force open a locked storeroom door, (g) climb into the loft space and search it, (h) go back downstairs, (I) re-enter the main kitchen, (j) enter the dining room and search it, (k) enter the living room and search it, (l) force open the cellar door and search it, (M) enter the downstairs toilet and search it, before the raid team was even ready to go up the main stairs at the front of the house using a mirrored device to enable them to see (n) the body of June Bamber in the doorway of the main bedroom...

A minute later, (7.38am), "One dead male, one dead female"...
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Caroline, aren't these super injunctions a very new thing?

Are they?  ;D
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Offline mike tesko

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At, 7.42am, "Can someone contact the police surgeon, and the Coroners officer, regarding two bodies"...
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Are they?  ;D


I know celebs -of the Z list type- have been known to take them out.

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I can't locate it now -some posts have been removed- but I fairly certain Mike said Granny Speakman had made provision for her great granddaughter in her will (pleeeeeze don't shoot the messenger) so surely this has to mean that not only is Jeremy's name on the birth certificate and the family KNOW of her existence, they MAY also be providing for her?

Mike says a lot of things, virtually none of them are ever accurate.  Granny's new will made no provision at all for a child of Jeremy.  Jeremy was a child when her first will was written.
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Then, by 7.45am, 'Linda', in the control room was contacting DS Neil Davidson at home, requesting him to come into the office, because police are dealing with an incident at whf involving, "A MURDER", and "A SUICIDE"...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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As most will have noted, there does not appear to be a defining moment mentioning the exact time in the police logs about when the raid team first set foot upstairs, and leaving the downstairs rooms already fully searched. This is odd. In operations like this, police almost always record events by reference to specific time. But in this instance, the content of police logs makes no such distinction, other than stating, at 7.37am, "THE BODY OF ONE DEAD MALE", and " THE BODY OF ONE DEAD FEMALE, FOUND ON ENTRY", then at 8.10am, "AFTER A THOROUGH SEARCH OF THE PREMISES, A FURTHER THREE BODIES FOUND UPSTAIRS, FIVE DEAD IN TOTAL"...

This is a perfect example why your opinions are disregarded as sheer nonsense.

The raid team was not writing down on paper the time they cleared each room.  Nor were they passing the time to someone outside ot have such person relay it to the IR room so such could be placed on the log.  The raid team was not unique, police do not do such ever.  Expecting them to shows what a clown you are. 
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Then, by 7.45am, 'Linda', in the control room was contacting DS Neil Davidson at home, requesting him to come into the office, because police are dealing with an incident at whf involving, "A MURDER", and "A SUICIDE"...

She didn't tell him it was a murder suicide, that was later after the site was cleared hat such surfaced but hey when did you care about the facts...
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