Dana Ewell

[Jane]

Maggie,statistics say that 1 in 10 prisoners have mental health issues,and those who have will be in places like Broadmoor and Ashworth.
It's been proven that Jeremy is neither psychotic nor a psychopath,as in 30 years of incarceration,nothing has shown itself that he's got either of these traits.

He may have been calm at one point because he was NOT expecting the news which followed during the course of the morning. If he'd been play-acting,he'd have been putting on a huge act of pathos and hidden expectation,but as it was it would have been the very last thing he'd have expected. Thinking of what had happened in the past with Sheila and her " do's " he probably fully expected a good outcome rather than the one that there was. He was in disbelief and had asked to speak to his dad which was so very sad.

Lookout, those tests were nothing that isn't given to other prisoners. The authorities won't be interested in knowing whether or not he's a psychopath from tests. His behaviours would give a better indication.

[Caroline]

I have heard of this before. Big difference is this guy got a friend to execute the killing.

And Jeremy said he did! Obviously there are differences - I said it was similar.

[Caroline]

I didn't say he doesn't have a disorder or some form of psychosis, I believe him to be a bullet point psychopath.
But he didn't kill for a blood sport, didn't do it for the thrill, he saw his family as an inconvenience - in the way of the money that should be his and the lifestyle he saw himself as enjoying.

No it hasn't!  The OS posted something and worded it carefully to make it sound like he has been tested for psychopathy every year - and that's tricked you into believing it.

I agree Mat - total psychopath and he certainly hasn't been tested for psychopathy every year. It's a bog standard assessment that all prisoners get and it is designed to measure their dangerousness if they are released/escape into the community.

[Caroline]

Interesting to also note, Ewell too is still maintaining nonsense.

[maggie]

I didn't say he doesn't have a disorder or some form of psychosis, I believe him to be a bullet point psychopath.
But he didn't kill for a blood sport, didn't do it for the thrill, he saw his family as an inconvenience - in the way of the money that should be his and the lifestyle he saw himself as enjoying.

You have no idea whether JB got a thrill out of killing his family, he may very well have done if he's a psychopath. 

[David1819]

You have no idea whether he got a thrill out of killing his family, he may very well have done if he's a psychopath.

He didn't actually do it himself he hired an assassin

[maggie]

He didn't actually do it himself he hired an assassin

Sorry David was replying to mat's post about Jeremy Bamber....  oops off topic 

[lookout]

Mat I'm not stupid. I don't listen to anyone,as I've got my own ideas about the case without the need to follow,or " be tricked " by anyone,including the OS.
Once a year most,or all prisoners have assessments done on their mental health. My reason for not believing he's a psychopath is because I don't believe he murdered anyone.He wasn't even capable of murdering anyone ( not that you have to be capable,because you don't ) but it's obvious to me that he didn't do it and I've always stood firm in my belief.

Only an MRI scan would detect psychopathy as the brain shows a different frontal lobe pattern than that of a non-psychopath.

[guest154]

You have no idea whether he got a thrill out of killing his family, he may very well have done if he's a psychopath.

 

Do you just come into topics to quote and disagree with me, I am just giving my opinion. I believe he killed for financial gain. That was his motive. I think most people would agree his motive was financial.  Instead of just quoting people and saying "I agree" or "I disagree" stick your neck out and have an opinion!

Mat I'm not stupid. I don't listen to anyone,as I've got my own ideas about the case without the need to follow,or " be tricked " by anyone,including the OS.
Once a year most,or all prisoners have assessments done on their mental health. My reason for not believing he's a psychopath is because I don't believe he murdered anyone.He wasn't even capable of murdering anyone ( not that you have to be capable,because you don't ) but it's obvious to me that he didn't do it and I've always stood firm in my belief.

Only an MRI scan would detect psychopathy as the brain shows a different frontal lobe pattern than that of a non-psychopath.

Well we can agree to disagree on much of this post.

[lookout]

So even I can't say if he's a psychopath or not,as well as yourself because we simply don't know.

[guest154]

It's been proven that Jeremy is neither psychotic nor a psychopath,

So even I can't say if he's a psychopath or not,as well as yourself because we simply don't know.

 

[lookout]

Lookout, those tests were nothing that isn't given to other prisoners. The authorities won't be interested in knowing whether or not he's a psychopath from tests. His behaviours would give a better indication.

Well his behaviour hasn't fluctuated in all these years,so that's answer enough.

[Jane]

Well his behaviour hasn't fluctuated in all these years,so that's answer enough.

Well, there's no proof of that, but he has been moved on numerous occasions although it doesn't have to be because of unacceptable behaviours.

[Caroline]

You have no idea whether JB got a thrill out of killing his family, he may very well have done if he's a psychopath.

I tend to think it was a means to an end Maggie - the goal being the money, not the actual killing. I think there would be more examples of cruelty and violence in his past if he'd killed for pleasure.

[guest154]

I tend to think it was a means to an end Maggie - the goal being the money, not the actual killing. I think there would be more examples of cruelty and violence in his past if he'd killed for pleasure.

If the family lived in a council house, with no savings, no money and no business - I don't think the crime would have happened at all.