Dana Ewell

[Caroline]

Who does this remind you of? So many similarities. A son who liked the high life, couldn't wait for his inheritance, a plan to kill the family, an alibi, a silencer, a hit man, a suspicious copper and relatives - a life sentence!

http://www.biography.com/people/dana-ewell-17162482

[lookout]

The sister also liked the high-life so much so that she wasn't prepared to be nursed back to health by living locally to her parents because she would miss the parties and night-life that London provided.

There are also umpteen cases which are like Sheila's too. Women who kill their children and parents too. Not necessarily because of money,but during/after acrimonious splits,separations or divorces and of course where there are mental health issues.

[Caroline]

The sister also liked the high-life so much so that she wasn't prepared to be nursed back to health by living locally to her parents because she would miss the parties and night-life that London provided.

There are also umpteen cases which are like Sheila's too. Women who kill their children and parents too. Not necessarily because of money,but during/after acrimonious splits,separations or divorces and of course where there are mental health issues.

You didn't read the article did you Lookout? There is no need to jump to the defence every time!

I hope others will read it and be far more objective!!

[lookout]

You didn't read the article did you Lookout? There is no need to jump to the defence every time!

I hope others will read it and be far more objective!!

No I didn't read it,but I will do when I've got my coffee.

[Caroline]

No I didn't read it,but I will do when I've got my coffee.

Cheers! 

[lookout]

Cheers! 

Well,first of all it states that police felt that there was something " staged " about the scene of the crime.
As a matter of interest has anyone read anything about EP having said or suggested this with WHF ?

[Jane]

The sister also liked the high-life so much so that she wasn't prepared to be nursed back to health by living locally to her parents because she would miss the parties and night-life that London provided.

There are also umpteen cases which are like Sheila's too. Women who kill their children and parents too. Not necessarily because of money,but during/after acrimonious splits,separations or divorces and of course where there are mental health issues.

Lookout,  if her behaviour at the party and subsequently is any indication,I very much doubt that Sheila was well enough to enjoy anything remotely close to "the high life, but I do suspect that the very LAST place she'd wish to be, when vulnerable, was buried in the Essex countryside close to to her childhood home.

[Jane]

Who does this remind you of? So many similarities. A son who liked the high life, couldn't wait for his inheritance, a plan to kill the family, an alibi, a silencer, a hit man, a suspicious copper and relatives - a life sentence!

http://www.biography.com/people/dana-ewell-17162482

Chillingly similar, Caroline, but there is almost black humour in the over-planning. I wonder for how long Radovcich sat and waited on the plastic sheeting before the victims returned.

[guest154]

Very similar Caroline, I wonder if Dana had heard of the WHF murders.

I noticed this "Also called to testify during the trial were Dana's uncles, who recounted how their nephew had become upset when he learned his parents' will was structured" so the wider family were aware that Dana wasn't all too pleased with his family, much like in the Bamber case when people knew Jeremy's true feelings by the smaller things he would say or do.

[lookout]

Lookout,  if her behaviour at the party and subsequently is any indication,I very much doubt that Sheila was well enough to enjoy anything remotely close to "the high life, but I do suspect that the very LAST place she'd wish to be, when vulnerable, was buried in the Essex countryside close to to her childhood home.

Jane,anyone who was as ill as they were professed to have been wouldn't be worrying about being anywhere,not even at or near WHF,so Sheila was more than aware of where her surroundings would have been and made herself quite clear that that wasn't the place she wanted to be.
Young or older those who've still got their mothers will more often than not go to them at times of upset or illness.Sheila wanted to be as far away as possible from hers,so there clearly was a big problem that didn't look like being resolved.

[lookout]

Well,first of all it states that police felt that there was something " staged " about the scene of the crime.
As a matter of interest has anyone read anything about EP having said or suggested this with WHF ?

C'mon,it's been said many a time about the crime scene at WHF having been staged,but have EP ever mentioned it at any time ?

[guest154]

C'mon,it's been said many a time about the crime scene at WHF having been staged,but have EP ever mentioned it at any time ?

They prosecuted Jeremy for the crime, so I'd take that as a good sign they believed that it was staged!

[Caroline]

C'mon,it's been said many a time about the crime scene at WHF having been staged,but have EP ever mentioned it at any time ?

To be honest Lookout, I have no idea, but just because, you, I or any other member haven't heard it said, it doesn't mean that it wasn't mentioned or thought by officers at the time. I imagine that police officers in California attend infinitely more gun related homicides than those in rural Essex and as such would be more attuned to such observations.   

[lookout]

No sheets of plastic had been used.Bullet casings were accounted for ( were they ever fingerprinted ?)

Perhaps Jeremy should have immediately put up a reward for the killer ? That would have put the cat among the pigeons.

One thing for sure Jeremy never plundered his grannie's bank account and he was her favourite grandson making it a possibility if he'd been that way inclined.

We're reading of two very different people in this Ewell and Bamber. Ewell was a mercenary type of person who had no regard for anyone and who HAD planned the executions. There was certainly nothing orderly about the murders at WHF which were done on a whim.

[Caroline]

Chillingly similar, Caroline, but there is almost black humour in the over-planning. I wonder for how long Radovcich sat and waited on the plastic sheeting before the victims returned.

I think it's human nature to 'over-play' things. The saying 'you can't be too careful' seems to come into play and in trying to be 'too careful' they end up being 'too careful'