Dana Ewell

[Caroline]

If the family lived in a council house, with no savings, no money and no business - I don't think the crime would have happened at all.

Only if someone was hogging the remote! 

[maggie]

Do you just come into topics to quote and disagree with me, I am just giving my opinion. I believe he killed for financial gain. That was his motive. I think most people would agree his motive was financial.  Instead of just quoting people and saying "I agree" or "I disagree" stick your neck out and have an opinion!

I have many opinions mat some are best kept to myself.
I was reading the topic just as others do and I happened to misunderstand your post, I was under the impression that you believed anyone could carry out such a murder if they were greedy enough without being disordered, I just pointed out that I didn't believe anyone could kill in cold blood and create such mayhem unless they had a disorder.....  that is my opinion.
If I agree with someone that is what I write just like anyone else.

[lookout]

If the family lived in a council house, with no savings, no money and no business - I don't think the crime would have happened at all.

The public said the same about the McCanns.
 It's got nothing to do with status as children are still killed under the circumstances that you've stated. Probably more so because of the crap conditions as one or both parents either drink or do drugs. Suicides are probably higher too.

[guest154]

The public said the same about the McCanns.
 It's got nothing to do with status as children are still killed under the circumstances that you've stated. Probably more so because of the crap conditions as one or both parents either drink or do drugs. Suicides are probably higher too.

Well I am talking about the WHF MURDER case.. not a child ABDUCTION.
Jeremy killed for financial gain. If there was no money, no savings, no business then I don't think Jeremy would have killed his family!

[Caroline]

The public said the same about the McCanns.
 It's got nothing to do with status as children are still killed under the circumstances that you've stated. Probably more so because of the crap conditions as one or both parents either drink or do drugs. Suicides are probably higher too.

Murder for gain has EVERYTHING to do with status - you can't gain if there's nowt to gain!

[guest154]

Murder for gain has EVERYTHING to do with status - you can't gain if there's nowt to gain!

Caroline I am happy I am getting through to you loud and clear! I was beginning to think I was talking in tongue, when really my point is clear. I think my point is purposefully being ignored/misunderstood. 

[Jane]

Caroline I am happy I am getting through to you loud and clear! I was beginning to think I was talking in tongue, when really my point is clear. I think my point is purposefully being ignored/misunderstood. 

Mat, surely murder for gain is EXACTLY that. If there's nothing TO gain, if murder occurs it's for any number of OTHER reasons...........................isn't it(?)

[guest154]

Mat, surely murder for gain is EXACTLY that. If there's nothing TO gain, if murder occurs it's for any number of OTHER reasons...........................isn't it(?)

Yes.
To put it SIMPLY.. in THIS case...

No Money. No Crime.

[lookout]

Well I am talking about the WHF MURDER case.. not a child ABDUCTION.
Jeremy killed for financial gain. If there was no money, no savings, no business then I don't think Jeremy would have killed his family!

I didn't mention abduction ? The public along with Amaral ( top detective ) said that the McCanns had murdered their child.

JB didn't need to kill anyone for financial gain. He was getting paid very well on the farm,which he'd have already realised and if he'd needed money it would have seemed that all he had to do was ask either parent and the money was there.

[lookout]

As I've already said,all JB had to do was ask and there'd be money provided-------just like that.

[Jane]

As I've already said,all JB had to do was ask and there'd be money provided-------just like that.

Yes, Lookout, but he'd have probably had to explain why he wanted it and £18,000 per year that he had to work for isn't as tempting as £400,000(ish) which was all his.

[guest154]

Yes, Lookout, but he'd have probably had to explain why he wanted it and £18,000 per year that he had to work for isn't as tempting as £400,000(ish) which was all his.

There comes a time when enough is enough, his parents were generous with him but I don't think him turning up cap in hand and being able to just take £££ time and time again rings true.

[Caroline]

As I've already said,all JB had to do was ask and there'd be money provided-------just like that.

He didn't want to ask or to have conditions placed up on him. If they were dead, he was master of his own destiny.

[Jane]

There comes a time when enough is enough, his parents were generous with him but I don't think him turning up cap in hand and being able to just take £££ time and time again rings true.

Mat, I can quite see that there may have been a time when money was used as a carrot, ie if Jeremy did WHATEVER he would be generously recompensed OR was used as a bribe to keep him in order/control him(?) Where money is offered, in my experience there are often strings attached and those strings CAN bind one to the place one LEAST wants to be...................however, I'm NOT saying it's an excuse to murder. 

[guest154]

Mat, I can quite see that there may have been a time when money was used as a carrot, ie if Jeremy did WHATEVER he would be generously recompensed OR was used as a bribe to keep him in order/control him(?) Where money is offered, in my experience there are often strings attached and those strings CAN bind one to the place one LEAST wants to be...................however, I'm NOT saying it's an excuse to murder.

Makes a lot of sense JAPES! I can see his family knowing what his achilles heel is and that being money, so yeah I can imagine them using money as his carrot.

Being able to ask for a few hundred pounds here and there wouldn't satisfy him when he is aware how much money he could have to do as he please with no strings attached if his family were out of the way.