After nine closures, a time for a final closure ?

[buddy]

She may well have done, we'll never know. She could have held that over him for the rest of their lives - now that might have been an even worse fate than the one he's living now!! 

Not really Caroline. He could have dumped her overboard on the drugs trip.

[Caroline]

Not really Caroline. He could have dumped her overboard on the drugs trip.

That's true! 

[Jan]

Adam I am so worried about you - you have your closure - you know 100% about what happened through your extensive research and reading of books - so why are you even here?

Give you brain a rest - it must be exhausting trying to prove something that you already know has been proven.

[guest154]

Adam I am so worried about you - you have your closure - you know 100% about what happened through your extensive research and reading of books - so why are you even here?

Give you brain a rest - it must be exhausting trying to prove something that you already know has been proven.

Oh come on, not this rubbish again.

[Jan]

Oh come on, not this rubbish again.

yes I have had a few weeks off and Adam has not learnt how to have a proper debate . And I am entitled to my opinion as much as he is . If he stopped preaching at the rest of us I would have more respect for him.

[guest154]

yes I have had a few weeks off and Adam has not learnt how to have a proper debate . And I am entitled to my opinion as much as he is . If he stopped preaching at the rest of us I would have more respect for him.

But it's not just Adam, it's all 'guilters' that get attacked with the silly argument of "Jeremy is in prison, convicted so what are you doing here?".

Almost as if there is something wrong with guilters for posting about the case, turning the argument around - you've got 7000 posts on an internet forum supporting a convicted child killer when :

All that is ever highlighted that stick are admin errors.
CCRC and a JR reject any claims as credible.
The official site of Jeremy posts proven lies (ralph phoning the police, still!  )

So some people would ask what you're doing here and find that weird too.

But as for guilters, I can't think of any that come on here just to slate Bamber - they do debate the case/ they have knowledge of the case and that can't be said for ALL supporters - I can think of FOUR of the top of my head who support Bamber and seemingly are unable to debate the case - but no one asks them why they are here.

The forum is for debate and always has been - the only other option is that guilters are banned and then this place would become like the official site where everyone agrees with each other and very little every scrutinised because who wants to correct people on their own side?

[scipio_usmc]

After so many closures one would think you would be smart enough to realize those supporters you are addressing refuse to accept closure and therefore each time you ask whether it is time for closure it is a pointless question.

[lookout]

After so many closures one would think you would be smart enough to realize those supporters you are addressing refuse to accept closure and therefore each time you ask whether it is time for closure it is a pointless question.

 You've got a cheek blaming supporters for refusing to address closure. Isn't closure on your part the fact that he was found guilty and imprisoned ?
It's not closure so far as supporters are concerned because there are far too many anomalies involved.

[Jan]

But it's not just Adam, it's all 'guilters' that get attacked with the silly argument of "Jeremy is in prison, convicted so what are you doing here?".

Almost as if there is something wrong with guilters for posting about the case, turning the argument around - you've got 7000 posts on an internet forum supporting a convicted child killer when :

All that is ever highlighted that stick are admin errors.
CCRC and a JR reject any claims as credible.
The official site of Jeremy posts proven lies (ralph phoning the police, still!  )

So some people would ask what you're doing here and find that weird too.

But as for guilters, I can't think of any that come on here just to slate Bamber - they do debate the case/ they have knowledge of the case and that can't be said for ALL supporters - I can think of FOUR of the top of my head who support Bamber and seemingly are unable to debate the case - but no one asks them why they are here.

The forum is for debate and always has been - the only other option is that guilters are banned and then this place would become like the official site where everyone agrees with each other and very little every scrutinised because who wants to correct people on their own side?

No - because some of those posters are still debating and in some cases asking questions - so they may be 99.99 % sure he is guilty but there is a very tiny tiny niggling possibility that he may have been telling the truth for all these years. Adam is different . He has made his mind up about every thread he starts before he even starts . 

[scipio_usmc]

You've got a cheek blaming supporters for refusing to address closure. Isn't closure on your part the fact that he was found guilty and imprisoned ?
It's not closure so far as supporters are concerned because there are far too many anomalies involved.

I see Jeremy supporters making the same refuted claims over and over again.  Efforts to get such supporters to admit defeat on such issues fails and they just repeat the same mantra.  Asking them if it is time for closure in an effort to get them to quit has failed time and again.  What point then is asking them for some final closure when they won't even admit to it on any of the individual arguments?

From the point of a rational objective person is is quite pointless.

[guest154]

No - because some of those posters are still debating and in some cases asking questions - so they may be 99.99 % sure he is guilty but there is a very tiny tiny niggling possibility that he may have been telling the truth for all these years. Adam is different . He has made his mind up about every thread he starts before he even starts .

There is usually quite a high discrepancy between those who say there are undecided and those that are actually on the fence when push comes to shove.

[Jan]

I see Jeremy supporters making the same refuted claims over and over again.  Efforts to get such supporters to admit defeat on such issues fails and they just repeat the same mantra.  Asking them if it is time for closure in an effort to get them to quit has failed time and again.  What point then is asking them for some final closure when they won't even admit to it on any of the individual arguments?

From the point of a rational objective person is is quite pointless.

  exactly

[guest154]

I see Jeremy supporters making the same refuted claims over and over again. Efforts to get such supporters to admit defeat on such issues fails and they just repeat the same mantra. Asking them if it is time for closure in an effort to get them to quit has failed time and again.  What point then is asking them for some final closure when they won't even admit to it on any of the individual arguments?

From the point of a rational objective person is is quite pointless.

It does show (hopefully) to new members what is going on.

[Jane]

I see Jeremy supporters making the same refuted claims over and over again.  Efforts to get such supporters to admit defeat on such issues fails and they just repeat the same mantra. 

Try looking in the mirror and watching your own mouth move. The only thing you're mater of is twisting others' words and projecting your flaws elsewhere.

[scipio_usmc]

Try looking in the mirror and watching your own mouth move. The only thing you're mater of is twisting others' words and projecting your flaws elsewhere.

ALl your efforts to establish me twisting have simply resulted in you looking foolish.  I post facts and evidence while you make up nonsense to suit your agenda.