Author Topic: Walked or rode bycicle to 9 Head Street from whf - Rigor Mortis puzzle...  (Read 12083 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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Stopping being so bloody ridiculous.   Sheila was dead before the police entered the farmhouse.No, she wasn't, she was shot dead in the main bedroom by police...

As for Jeremy Bamber, he IS the killer No, he isn't the killer...and the evidence proves it!!! and the evidence does not prove he killed anyone...
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Offline lookout

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Grin ? After having been shot ? Shouldn't that have been a grimace ?

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John I agree Jeremy was no stranger to these roads or indeed the fields he could have travelled either way on foot or a bike.

Indeed, for all we know he walked to the farm but cycled back in time to answer his staged phone call.

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The smell of death is associated with putrefaction which is the scientific term for bacteria from the digestive system devouring the body.  This doesn't happen right away.  It is not likely that any of the bodies smelled. It might depend upon the cause of death, if stabbed or shot, or the body has been partially destroyed as in a road traffic accident, and the victims blood has been spilled or exposed as in this case, bacteria and exposure to the air may speed up the process...

After corpses sit a couple of days then they begin to smell and that is why people often discover bodies after several days not right away.Depends how the victim dies, and climate if body is outside...
« Last Edit: September 23, 2015, 06:11:PM by mike tesko »
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The smell of death is associated with putrefaction which is the scientific term for bacteria from the digestive system devouring the body.  This doesn't happen right away.  It is not likely that any of the bodies smelled. 

After corpses sit a couple of days then they begin to smell and that is why people often discover bodies after several days not right away.
Depends on the temperature.

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There was enough evidence for 10 members of the jury to say he was guilty. I can't help feeling they'd have found it very difficult to believe that two different police marksmen BOTH accidentally shot her in the neck.

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Maybe but I live in the country and it's pitch black it's totally disorientating, it wouldn't matter how well you knew the tracks etc. I don't agree.

A farmer knows every nook and cranny on their farm and in any event ones eyes adjust to the darkness.  Even without a moon there is sufficient light reflected back from the night sky to walk or cycle in any open space.

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Depends on the temperature.

Too hot or cold inhibits the bacteria.  Bacteria also requires moisture which is why in tropical environments it is enhanced. More air also enhances it.  There was nothing at WHF to enhance the process and cause rapid putrefaction.


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Maybe but I live in the country and it's pitch black it's totally disorientating, it wouldn't matter how well you knew the tracks etc. I don't agree.

and driving through it at night is a bit diffrent from walking. i doubt if he had often walked through it at night.

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The smell of death is associated with putrefaction which is the scientific term for bacteria from the digestive system devouring the body.  This doesn't happen right away.  It is not likely that any of the bodies smelled. 

After corpses sit a couple of days then they begin to smell and that is why people often discover bodies after several days not right away.

Mike obviously hasn't researched this to any great extent. I wonder if he has ever attended an open coffin wake?


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There was enough evidence for 10 members of the jury to say he was guilty. I can't help feeling they'd have found it very difficult to believe that two different police marksmen BOTH accidentally shot her in the neck.

The jury would have been hard pressed to convict Bamber as the killer if the contents of the police logs had all been disclosed and considered during the trial. Also, if the photographic evidence hadn't been doctored by PC Bird, and the truth had come out about the stage managing of Sheila's body in the main bedroom, I mean how could 3 different police officers remove the same rifle from Sheila's body. The prosecution would have had to throw the towel in, for a certainty. The police also definately tampered with the ballistics, and the relatives introduced the dodgy silencer evidence. I know where my money would have been if all the key evidence had not been wilfully and deliberately withheld by Essex police, the relatives and the prosecuting authorities...
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Maybe but I live in the country and it's pitch black it's totally disorientating, it wouldn't matter how well you knew the tracks etc. I don't agree.

Maggie, even if he wasn't a farmer at heart, he knew those fields and furrows by heart so I don't think he'd have been particularly inconvenienced by the dark.

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He didn't strike me as the type who would take on a walk like that in the dark. He'd have been scared of his own shadow.

Offline mike tesko

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Too hot or cold inhibits the bacteria.  Bacteria also requires moisture which is why in tropical environments it is enhanced. More air also enhances it.  There was nothing at WHF to enhance the process and cause rapid putrefaction.

Yes, there was, there was an abundance of blood, of open wounds, and of temperature...
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No, she wasn't, she was shot dead in the main bedroom by police...

Get a grip ffs, did they use a silencer too?  Strooth 
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