Walked or rode bycicle to 9 Head Street from whf - Rigor Mortis puzzle...

[Jane]

One couldn't possibly see rigor mortis from those photos and a newly deceased persons doesn't smell.

I don't recall anyone speaking of "stench" in either WS or in court.

[mike tesko]

I don't recall anyone speaking of "stench" in either WS or in court.

No, and that is because Sheila did not die inside whf until after 9am, that morning...

[Jane]

No, and that is because Sheila did not die inside whf until after 9am, that morning...

NOR do I recall "stench" being mentioned as coming from the other bodies.

[nugnug]

asuming guilt i think he would of  had to of walked i dont think he rode the bike.

[maggie]

NOR do I recall "stench" being mentioned as coming from the other bodies.

I remember one of the raid team (I think) opened the windows because of the smell but it would be more likely to have been other smells than decomposing bodies.  I guess the heat from the Aga on even a cool August night may have made the kitchen very warm and therefore hastened the process of decomposition.

[lookout]

One couldn't possibly see rigor mortis from those photos and a newly deceased persons doesn't smell.

Newly deceased ? What time scale do you call newly deceased in relation to when the pics were taken ?

[Jane]

I remember one of the raid team (I think) opened the windows because of the smell but it would be more likely to have been other smells than decomposing bodies.  I guess the heat from the Aga on even a cool August night may have made the kitchen very warm and therefore hastened the process of decomposition.

But no one has yet spoken of a distinct LACK of "stench" emitting from Sheila, have they?

[John]

Pitch black country roads with no lights on a bike, darting into hedges which may be full of brambles, barbed wire, ditches...  anything, you could kill yourself that way as well..

Jeremy knew those tracks like the back of his hand, he knew where he could hide if he saw car headlights in the distance.

[John]

No, and that is because Sheila did not die inside whf until after 9am, that morning...

Stopping being so bloody ridiculous.   Sheila was dead before the police entered the farmhouse.

As for Jeremy Bamber, he IS the killer and the evidence proves it!!!

[susan]

Jeremy knew those tracks like the back of his hand, he knew where he could hide if he saw car headlights in the distance.

John I agree Jeremy was no stranger to these roads or indeed the fields he could have travelled either way on foot or a bike.

[scipio_usmc]

There was no rigor mortis in Sheila's extremities when PC David Bird started to take his first photographs of Sheila's body in the main bedroom, that and no mention by anyone of any accompanying body stench relating to Sheila's body, tells its own story. Her skin colour is much too pale in these images to support a claim that she had already been dead since any time prior to 7.37am, or sooner. The colour and complexion of her skin would sure have been more purplish than that shown. The body and the rifle has clearly been stage managed by the police at this stage, prior to this stage, and after this stage. You only have to work out the number of times police officers say they removed the rifle from her body to realize that police staged her body and misued photographes taken during or after the body and the gun had been tampered with, producing such photographs as evidence of how the body and the gun had been found untouched, unmoved, but the game is up...

Photos of arms and hands don't reveal rigor.  Rigor could be seen in a face though and is in the photo of Sheila's the grin she has is a typical sign.

There is no evidence of staging anything and no reason why they would stage anything.  They blamed Sheila not Jeremy so you can't claim they were staging things to frame him.

[mike tesko]

Photos of arms and hands don't reveal rigor. Arms, hands, fingers become stiff... Rigor could be seen in a face though and is in the photo of Sheila's the grin she has is a typical sign.

There is no evidence of staging anything Yes there is...and no reason why they would stage anything. yes, there is...  They blamed Sheila not Jeremy so you can't claim they were staging things to frame him. I have never claimed that they staged the scene intentionally to frame Jeremy, because at the time they staged the scene of her body to make it appear as though she had taken her own life, when she had not...

[nugnug]

But no one has yet spoken of a distinct LACK of "stench" emitting from Sheila, have they?

thats a good point.

[maggie]

Jeremy knew those tracks like the back of his hand, he knew where he could hide if he saw car headlights in the distance.

Maybe but I live in the country and it's pitch black it's totally disorientating, it wouldn't matter how well you knew the tracks etc. I don't agree.

[scipio_usmc]

No, and that is because Sheila did not die inside whf until after 9am, that morning...

The smell of death is associated with putrefaction which is the scientific term for bacteria from the digestive system devouring the body.  This doesn't happen right away.  It is not likely that any of the bodies smelled. 

After corpses sit a couple of days then they begin to smell and that is why people often discover bodies after several days not right away.