Walked or rode bycicle to 9 Head Street from whf - Rigor Mortis puzzle...

[scipio_usmc]

Your BS is all a waste of time.  Craig said she was on the far side of the bedroom.  Your claim he said far side of the bed was a blatant lie.  He said her body was hidden by the bed not hidden by the door.  This was thus another blatant lie.  With these 2 lies refuted you are left with zilch.

[Jane]

"He didn't say on the floor and that's what matters" Ain't THOSE words loaded!!! What they say is, because they are't specific, albeit, clearly understood, they leave YOU with enough scope to play word games. "There is no mention at all of Sheila's body being on the floor at 8.44" MORE twisting. There's nothing to say it wasn't. Why WOULD I suggest that Craig and Miller made false witness statements? You're the one who's trying to give another meaning to what they said.

[mike tesko]

"He didn't say on the floor and that's what matters" Ain't THOSE words loaded!!! What they say is, because they are't specific, albeit, clearly understood, they leave YOU with enough scope to play word games. "There is no mention at all of Sheila's body being on the floor at 8.44" MORE twisting. It's not twisting anything, it's simply stating "THE FACTS". In any event, Craig told EWEN Smith (Now a CCRC Commissioner), that "SHEILA'S BODY WAS ON THE BED WHEN HE PRONOUNCED HER DEAD at 8.44HRS", and that she "HAD ONLY ONE SHOT TO THE NECK AT THAT STAGE". Ewen Smith not only told me that, but he also told my friend LEIGH, and Jeremy, the same information. I am not bothered what you or any body else thinks about this matter, I know the truth. Craig told Ewen Smith the truth, and that is a fact. He told Ewen that Sheila's body was on the bed at 08.44hrs, and I don't give a damn what you have to say about this matter, you were not the one Ewen Smith told about this exciting news, I was and so were the others I have named, including Jeremy... There's nothing to say it wasn't. Why WOULD I suggest that Craig and Miller made false witness statements? You're the one who's trying to give another meaning to what they said.Leave me to get on with what I do best, stop trying to muddy the waters over this very serious matter. Whatever you or anybody says or have said about me won't stop me or put me off from exposing the true circumstances of what happened, and why it happened. I can't stand corrupt officials and liars...

[Jane]

Believe me, Mike, I FULLY understand, that as you believe that "corrupt" officials are involved you will continue to to try to expose what you believe to be the true circumstances/" THE FACTS" of this case as you see them. You are perfectly correct and not alone in believing no one can stand liars.

[John]

Dr Craig   ...signed a witness statement in which it clearly makes mention that at 08.44hrs he saw the body of Sheila Caffell on the far side of the bed...

DS Jones visited the scene and saw Sheila's body on the bed, he repeated what he had seen to AE that very same morning...l account given by an eye witness...

PC Bird later photographed it on the bedroom floor, so there can be no dispute about who stage managed Sheila Caffells body on the bedroom floor, it was the police...

As usual you appear to have events back to front in an attempt to prove some great conspiracy by the police.

The good doctor did see Sheila lying on the far side of the bed but on the floor on the far side of the bed.  Sheilas body could very possibly have been lifted onto the bed after formalities had been completed in order to facilitate her removal from the scene.  The suggestion that police found her on the bed is rubbished by Birds photos of her lying undisturbed on the bedroom floor. 

[Adam]

There is no reason for the police to move Sheila from the bed to the floor prior to photographs being taken. Not one reason.

At least with the two bodies in the kitchen claim, Bamber can try to use the police radio logs. Which he did do decades later.

To be fair I don't believe Bamber has ever claimed Sheila was on the bed.

[scipio_usmc]

t's not twisting anything, it's simply stating "THE FACTS". In any event, Craig told EWEN Smith (Now a CCRC Commissioner), that "SHEILA'S BODY WAS ON THE BED WHEN HE PRONOUNCED HER DEAD at 8.44HRS", and that she "HAD ONLY ONE SHOT TO THE NECK AT THAT STAGE". Ewen Smith not only told me that, but he also told my friend LEIGH, and Jeremy, the same information. I am not bothered what you or any body else thinks about this matter, I know the truth. Craig told Ewen Smith the truth, and that is a fact. He told Ewen that Sheila's body was on the bed at 08.44hrs, and I don't give a damn what you have to say about this matter, you were not the one Ewen Smith told about this exciting news, I was and so were the others I have named, including Jeremy... There's nothing to say it wasn't. Why WOULD I suggest that Craig and Miller made false witness statements? You're the one who's trying to give another meaning to what they said.Leave me to get on with what I do best, stop trying to muddy the waters over this very serious matter. Whatever you or anybody says or have said about me won't stop me or put me off from exposing the true circumstances of what happened, and why it happened. I can't stand corrupt officials and liars...

Ewen Smith doesn't claim that Craig told him such YOU claim that he told such to Ewen Smith.  In the meantime allegedly he told Smith this more than 15 years later when he was old and bed ridden and would have mental problems.  In his contemporaneous statement he said she was on the other side of the bedroom hidden from view by the bed which means the bed was blocking her body which means she had to be on the floor which is where everyone else saw her body as well and where the blood pool was. 

He didn't claim she had only a single wound.  He identified a single wound to each victim in order to support his assessment they died from gunshot wound.  The defense expert (testimony you just posted yesterday) stated that Sheila could not have lived more than 20 minutes and thus the second shot had to be within 20 minutes of the first.  SO your lies are for nothing because it is impossible for her to have been killed after Craig saw her and impossible for Craig to have incorrectly declared her dead.  This kind of nonsense is why Jeremy wants you to go away you hurt his cause.

[Jane]

Ewen Smith doesn't claim that Craig told him such YOU claim that he told such to Ewen Smith.  In the meantime allegedly he told Smith this more than 15 years later when he was old and bed ridden and would have mental problems.  In his contemporaneous statement he said she was on the other side of the bedroom hidden from view by the bed which means the bed was blocking her body which means she had to be on the floor which is where everyone else saw her body as well and where the blood pool was. 

He didn't claim she had only a single wound.  He identified a single wound to each victim in order to support his assessment they died from gunshot wound.  The defense expert (testimony you just posted yesterday) stated that Sheila could not have lived more than 20 minutes and thus the second shot had to be within 20 minutes of the first.  SO your lies are for nothing because it is impossible for her to have been killed after Craig saw her and impossible for Craig to have incorrectly declared her dead.  This kind of nonsense is why Jeremy wants you to go away you hurt his cause.

A past member here has said much about Dr Craig, having I believe suffered a misdiagnosis at his hands. If there was any truth in what he said, it's possible that in old age there was some mental impairment, BUT mental impairment isn't necessarily a part of the ageing process and failing memory isn't necessarily indicative of mental impairment.

[scipio_usmc]

A past member here has said much about Dr Craig, having I believe suffered a misdiagnosis at his hands. If there was any truth in what he said, it's possible that in old age there was some mental impairment, BUT mental impairment isn't necessarily a part of the ageing process and failing memory isn't necessarily indicative of mental impairment.

Misdiagnosing someone as dead and misdiagnosing an illness are two totally different things.

It is a fact of life that as time passes people forget things and that in old age they are less mentally alert.  The running joke is that you enter this world feeble minded in diapers and exit the same way.  For some this is quite true.

[Jane]

Misdiagnosing someone as dead and misdiagnosing an illness are two totally different things.

It is a fact of life that as time passes people forget things and that in old age they are less mentally alert.  The running joke is that you enter this world feeble minded in diapers and exit the same way.  For some this is quite true.

For SOME, I agree. However, your words were "he was old and bedridden AND WOULD HAVE mental problems" The ONLY confirmation we have of his mental faculties came from a disgruntled patient.