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Offline Caroline

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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #135 on: September 12, 2015, 07:36:PM »
Caroline 5 people were dead. Thats a disaster that would have needed the most thorough investigation possible. Just believing jb doesnt cut it for me.

Don't think anyone is saying that EP did an outstanding job, they didn't - BUT several officers didn't 'just believe JB' hence why he was eventually convicted.
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« Reply #136 on: September 12, 2015, 07:43:PM »
they had a witness and no need to suspect anything other than he was telling the truth - at that point. Some officers were still investigating because they didn't believe Jeremy and in the end - he didn't get away with murder.
What witness was that..

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« Reply #137 on: September 12, 2015, 08:18:PM »
Yes but because of thier incompetence people still dont know what to believe.

All so annoying rwally. Wish i had your confidence in his conviction.

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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #138 on: September 12, 2015, 08:55:PM »
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Offline Caroline

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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #139 on: September 12, 2015, 08:58:PM »
Yes but because of thier incompetence people still dont know what to believe.

All so annoying rwally. Wish i had your confidence in his conviction.

Take a look at what they call 'evidence' - it all just boils down to admin errors. If you had to choose out of 'all the so called evidence' pointing to innocence, what is it that stands out most?
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Offline Adam

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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #140 on: September 13, 2015, 09:44:AM »
Caroline 5 people were dead. Thats a disaster that would have needed the most thorough investigation possible. Just believing jb doesnt cut it for me.

The police were just working the same way police throughout the country were working at crime scenes in 1985.

Not that there were many massacres going on throughout the country.

Any mistakes the police made benefited Bamber. Firstly important incriminating evidence was lost. Secondly Bamber can always bring this up.

Has anyone got a source about the alleged training that went on ? I have only read it on here.
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« Reply #141 on: September 13, 2015, 09:45:AM »
Reasons why the police took one month to change stance:

Jeremy phoned the police:

It is not often someone commits a crime and then phones and meets the police a few minutes later.


It is rare for a son to kill five members of his immediate family:

The police knew nothing about Jeremy or his family. However he would have seemed perfectly presentable and polite.


Sheila had been painted as the only suspect:

'Nutter, do lally, depressive pyschotic, should be locked up, knows how to use guns, looney. Within a few hours the police would only have one suspect.

Jeremy was co operating with the police:

Why would the police suspect someone who was being so co-operative. They would be sympathetic as he had lost his family.

The police knew nothing about Bamber's motives:

They just knew about Sheila's condition.


Taff Jones refused to change stance:

Some policemen and the relatives suspected Jeremy early on. But were knocked back by Taff Jones. Without reason.


The crime scene took time to process:

Days or weeks. It takes time for experts to process forensic evidence. The police also need to look at circumstantial evidence. Both these need to be interpreted by the police and decisions made.


Julie Mugford approached the police after one month:

There are several reasons why. Thread already created.


Jeremy's reaction after the massacre:

His erratic behaviour and lavish spending after the massacre made the police suspicious. However his erratic behaviour was over a period of one month.


The crime was unprecedented:

The judge said the police were lead expertly by Jeremy. In a crime they had never experienced before.


Waiting for the silencer results:

A very important piece of forensic evidence. Which the lab technicians took several weeks to process.


The police need to be sure:

To incorrectly charge a man who has lost his family would result in even more severe media criticism. They had to be sure before arresting Jeremy.
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« Reply #142 on: September 13, 2015, 10:05:AM »
The police deserve credit for having the courage to change stance in such a high profile case. Risking losing and facing certain criticism whether successful or not.

Taff Jones refused to change stance. Perhaps he was scared.

Supporters claim the police changed stance because they were pressurised by the relatives. This is laughable.
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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #143 on: September 13, 2015, 10:11:AM »
Tosh.

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« Reply #144 on: September 13, 2015, 10:14:AM »
Tosh.

Why do you think the police changed stance after one month ?
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« Reply #145 on: September 13, 2015, 10:23:AM »
I refuse to continue posting to you because all your posts are meant for is to distract attention from the LACK of genuine evidence,using " overwhelming evidence and mountains of evidence " for YOUR propagandist stance.
You're on your own !!

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« Reply #146 on: September 13, 2015, 10:30:AM »
Lookout you must stop just posting for attention. You know about the forensic evidence. You acknowledged it the last time I posted it. Saying it was the 'wrong kind of forensic evidence'.

The police must have had a lot of forensic and circumstantial evidence. Maybe even more than I uncovered.

Not only did they charge Bamber. But they were confident enough to change stance after one month.
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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #147 on: September 13, 2015, 10:36:AM »
When you stop being an xxxxxxxx,I'll stop " posting for attention "
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Re: The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.
« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2015, 10:43:AM »
When you stop being an arsehole,I'll stop " posting for attention "

Lookout I have had to report you to the moderators again. I may even have to PM someone and suggest a ban
 
You believe the police changed stance for one of three reasons -

My post above - 141.

The police wanted to frame an innocent man for some reason.
 
The relatives pressurised the police who then either followed the evidence, or decided to frame Bamber.


What is the problem with giving you're reason ?
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« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2015, 10:49:AM »
Not before I've reported you !!