The Glasgow Herald newspaper cuttings.

[lookout]

Lookout, I wonder if it's ever occurred to you just HOW she thought Colin was going to make an appointment for her with a psychiatrist. They tend not to be listed in Yellow Pages and it's generally thought that a referral via a GP is the correct procedure.

I actually wondered about it months/years ago,until I realised that there could well have been some kind of an arrangement between herself and her psychiatrist that she could attend there directly without a referral. It seems that her GP didn't get much of a mention anyway in her number of visits to see him/her.

[lookout]

Ooooooh,Sheila wasn't taking methadone.Where did that come from ? It's never been mentioned before.

It was always denied that Sheila took heroin too.

[Steve_uk]

Reading Chapter 10 of Carol Ann Lee's book again Dr. Ferguson tells us he initially diagnosed her with schizoaffective disorder,which turned out to be mistaken as he later claimed she was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. What surprised and shocked me was the doctor going further than what we already knew about her being obsessed with good and evil as concepts and the author quoting him as saying she had "expressed a measure of doing violence to her children..that she was capable of murdering them or communicating some ability for them to become evil or murderers at a later date."

I'm sure I hadn't read the above before in any of his four contributions in the Statements and Transcripts library. There is a footnote to the bit about Sheila needing evil to be cleansed in the CAL book but I'm not sure it extends to the part about her feeling able to murder them. When you look in the footnote the reference is Trial Testimony 1986,but I am unable to confirm exactly what he did say.

[Jane]

Reading Chapter 10 of Carol Ann Lee's book again Dr. Ferguson tells us he initially diagnosed her with schizoaffective disorder,which turned out to be mistaken as he later claimed she was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. What surprised and shocked me was the doctor going further than what we already knew about her being obsessed with good and evil as concepts and the author quoting him as saying she had "expressed a measure of doing violence to her children..that she was capable of murdering them or communicating some ability for them to become evil or murderers at a later date."

I'm sure I hadn't read the above before in any of his four contributions in the Statements and Transcripts library. There is a footnote to the bit about Sheila needing evil to be cleansed in the CAL book but I'm not sure it extends to the part about her feeling able to murder them. When you look in the footnote the reference is Trial Testimony 1986,but I am unable to confirm exactly what he did say.

Steve, I was very surprised by the amount of new information CAL managed to persuade Dr Ferguson to reveal about Sheila.

[lookout]

There's probably more in Sheila's notes than we care to assess.

[Steve_uk]

Family shot at point blank range,Bamber trial told. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19861015&id=E4JDAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q6UMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4879,3440832&hl=en

Was Jeremy straining at the leash to hit June first from three feet away as he burst into the bedroom,the remaining shots only a few inches away from all of them?

Dr. Ann Wilkinson claims halving the dose of Sheila's Haloperidol would have had no effect on schizophrenia to recur..

[Steve_uk]

Three vital questions for Bamber jury. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19861025&id=G4JDAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q6UMAAAAIBAJ&pg=3814,6282539&hl=en

Bamber made a fatal mistake,Court told. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19861022&id=GIJDAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q6UMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1986,5329857&hl=en

[Jan]

As usual with the press some things wrong some things right .Interesting the figure of what he was going to inherit from his grandmother. Fancy risking 5 life sentences when you were going to inherit £125000. 

Plus she did not exactly change her will without persuasion did she considering the family said they had not told her about Jeremy being guilty.

[lookout]

What was the explanation that Jeremy made for not ringing 999 ?

[lookout]

As usual with the press some things wrong some things right .Interesting the figure of what he was going to inherit from his grandmother. Fancy risking 5 life sentences when you were going to inherit £125000. 

Plus she did not exactly change her will without persuasion did she considering the family said they had not told her about Jeremy being guilty.

That inheritance wasn't his though was it ? No " blood entitlement ".I reckon if Jeremy hadn't gone to prison there'd have been a court case over that.

[Jane]

That inheritance wasn't his though was it ? No " blood entitlement ".I reckon if Jeremy hadn't gone to prison there'd have been a court case over that.

Not certain what you mean by "no blood entitlement" Lookout. Whilst individuals may still discriminate between adopted and biological offspring, the law no longer does.

[Jan]

That inheritance wasn't his though was it ? No " blood entitlement ".I reckon if Jeremy hadn't gone to prison there'd have been a court case over that.

Yes it was - it was his until he was written out of the will is what they were saying - it has nothing to do with him being a blood relative - she could have left her money to anyone she had chosen

[Jan]

A good reminder that legally they  only had to prove beyond reasonable doubt that  Jeremy had committed the crime  - they made it clear they did not have to prove that Sheila could not have done it . Legally that's all they had to do  prove that he was there and had done it . So really it probably was only the silencer that was the most damming piece of evidence. Lets hope the evidence on that was not flawed  or contaminated in any way and the jury understood it correctly .

[lookout]

Sorry,I was actually being facetious,as with that amount in mind plus the assets of WHF it's no wonder that nobody wanted Jeremy to get his mitts on it.

[Jan]

Thanks.

At least we know why he arrived after the police. He was frightened.

Why would he have got half of Mabel Speakman's will ? There was Neville, June, Sheila, the twins and any other relations she wanted to leave money with.

I don't think they said it was half of her will? It may have been £250000 between Sheila and Jeremy - and other sums to other people . But perhaps she thought Neville and June and other members of the family were wealthy enough and wanted to leave it to younger members of the family. Sort of counteracts the argument that Jeremy did not get on with the family does it not?