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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2015, 05:45:PM »
I have finished debating with you on this issue,not because I have lost,but because most people log in to discuss the Jeremy Bamber case,and I won't change you because you're like a driver with a new Sat nav who on approach to a brick wall wants to continue because the instrument can't be wrong(this was a time I accepted a lift from the Head of Maths and never again..)  http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/blog/karam-would-have-us-believe-that-david-bain-had-a-great-deal-of-bad-luck
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  steve!!

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2015, 05:45:PM »
Julie told her account to her friends before she ever spoke to police.  Claiming police got her to make it up so as to create fake evidence doesn't work.

yes of course she did.

And if JB is innocent there are still  possibilities - for example when JB dumped her she was making up stories ( such as the hitman) for attention and then Liz dumped her in it . Which fell right into the laps of the police trying to do a U turn. The timings and dates of them changing stance and her being pushed into going to the police all seem a little convenient.


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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2015, 05:47:PM »
I have finished debating with you on this issue,not because I have lost,but because most people log in to discuss the Jeremy Bamber case,and I won't change you because you're like a driver with a new Sat nav who on approach to a brick wall wants to continue because the instrument can't be wrong(this was a time I accepted a lift from the Head of Maths and never again..)  http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/blog/karam-would-have-us-believe-that-david-bain-had-a-great-deal-of-bad-luck


Steve - he NEVER debates - he lectures . Nothing more nothing less . He never looks at any other possibility other than the one he believes to be true.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2015, 05:49:PM »
I would say that IF julies testimony was a ruse to implicate JB for the "noble cause" It would be necessary for her to paint a complete picture as possible and use what was known.

So it would be necessary to put some "history " behind it . Her just saying I think he did it would not be enough.

there a lots of things I don't understand - like why Liz said Julie did not want to go to the police and it was her that made her go . Was Julie  a fantasist / attention seeker that got herself in too deep ? Or was she actually involved.

We all say only Jeremy knows the truth - but really Julie knows as well because of  what was said by the police when they first talked to her - and I have a feeling that would reveal a lot.
Good thinking Jan, Julie certainly knows more of the truth than anyone except Jeremy. 

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2015, 05:52:PM »
yes of course she did.

And if JB is innocent there are still  possibilities - for example when JB dumped her she was making up stories ( such as the hitman) for attention and then Liz dumped her in it . Which fell right into the laps of the police trying to do a U turn. The timings and dates of them changing stance and her being pushed into going to the police all seem a little convenient.
It does Jan, I have always thought your suggestion that she painted herself into a corner was a possibility.  Her behaviour was really strange imo.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2015, 05:54:PM »
I have finished debating with you on this issue,not because I have lost,but because most people log in to discuss the Jeremy Bamber case,and I won't change you because you're like a driver with a new Sat nav who on approach to a brick wall wants to continue because the instrument can't be wrong(this was a time I accepted a lift from the Head of Maths and never again..)  http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/blog/karam-would-have-us-believe-that-david-bain-had-a-great-deal-of-bad-luck


I trust YOU got out in one piece :D :D

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2015, 05:59:PM »
 Jeremy wrote to Julie after he'd been convicted. I think his letter is on the forum somewhere.He'd asked her why she'd said what she did and to retract it because he knew it wasn't true and she also knew that it wasn't true. The letter never reached her it was " returned,not known at this address ". ???

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2015, 06:06:PM »
It does Jan, I have always thought your suggestion that she painted herself into a corner was a possibility.  Her behaviour was really strange imo.

I still wonder if the police did contact her and ask her to get info out of Jeremy - I guess we will never know. 
 

but in any case if you knew on the night he was guilty - then he told you he was involved why on earth would you tell your friends?

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2015, 06:25:PM »
I still wonder if the police did contact her and ask her to get info out of Jeremy - I guess we will never know. 
 

but in any case if you knew on the night he was guilty - then he told you he was involved why on earth would you tell your friends?

Catharsis.
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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2015, 06:29:PM »
Catharsis.

I agree to some extent as I have just taken on a new member of staff who is attention seeking and I think possibly a liar - who keeps involving lots of members of staff in her personal life .

However this was multiple murders - not social or personal problems.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2015, 06:31:PM »
I agree to some extent as I have just taken on a new member of staff who is attention seeking and I think possibly a liar - who keeps involving lots of members of staff in her personal life .

However this was multiple murders - not social or personal problems.
Could be trouble ahead, Jan  :'(

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2015, 06:33:PM »
Could be trouble ahead, Jan  :'(

there already is and she has only been with us for about 8 weeks . She is driving me bonkers - its difficult enough running a business without having a drama queen. I am afraid I would be no good as a counsellor my family are from the "don't complain just get on with it " school.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2015, 06:38:PM »
Does anyone know where the letter is on the forum please ..?

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2015, 06:39:PM »
Does anyone know where the letter is on the forum please ..?

It's not.

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Re: Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2015, 06:42:PM »
I agree to some extent as I have just taken on a new member of staff who is attention seeking and I think possibly a liar - who keeps involving lots of members of staff in her personal life . (We all know one of those!)

However this was multiple murders - not social or personal problems.

All the more difficult to reconcile on your own. If it were me, I'd have to tell someone (although I'd never get that far and I would tell as soon as I found out).
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