New video on the bike:

[Jane]

There could also have been regular movement of tractors,etc as it was harvest-time and they tend to set out early,as do the farmers themselves.
Jeremy wouldn't have chosen the busiest time of the year when workers make an early appearance to various farms,including WHF.

He couldn't afford to be that picky. He had to do it when the opportunity presented itself, meaning when the whole family was there.

[Adam]

Bamber knew the routes and would know the easiest safe route.

This may have been a mixture of roads and cross country. Arriving in his back garden. Bikes are silent and most of the time he would not need bike lights on.

It is surprising that people believe he disposed of clothes on the way back.

[Jane]

Bamber knew the routes and would know the easiest safe route.

This may have been a mixture of roads and cross country. Arriving in his back garden. Bikes are silent and most of the time he would not need bike lights on.

It is surprising that people believe he disposed of clothes on the way back.

Jeremy's house in Head Street was in a row of houses at right angles to another row of houses in Fish Street. I don't think there to have been any way he could have got into his back garden, other than from the road at the front.

[Adam]

Jeremy's house in Head Street was in a row of houses at right angles to another row of houses in Fish Street. I don't think there to have been any way he could have got into his back garden, other than from the road at the front.

His back garden leads onto a pathway into the fields.

[Jane]

His back garden leads onto a pathway into the fields.

There's a children's playing field right down the bottom of Fish Street, but it has houses on the "Jeremy" side of it but there may be a foot path between them. Using that route -if it was possible- would have taken him well out of his way but time may not have been a consideration....................especially if he'd made one or more phone calls from the farm. Only the last call out would be recorded.

[Jan]

Why would he have to get rid of clothing on the way back ? He wasn't a suspect for a month. His clothes may be free of blood anyway. Leaving clothes lying around  between his place and WHF is too risky.

There has already been a closure thread on the disposal of the clothes.

I believe he cycled cross country. But if behind on time he may have gone some or all of the way on the roads to catch up on time. Avoiding being seen.

He would not need the bike lights on if travelling by road.

As I said, another option.

Before you make such statements you need to know more about the road and whether it was lit and whether it would have been dark at the time he was riding. We have no lights at all on our road and we are not in the middle of no where. And if he did not need lights then it also means he would be spotted easily. And also ( I don't know how many times I have to say this) He had NO way of knowing he would not be a suspect for a month. He had no way of knowing the police would fall for his story . He had no way of knowing they would not suspect him from the beginning - especially with the two shot scenario - you think he would have been quaking in his boots as soon as they went inside and thinking they would arrest him on the spot. The fact that you think he had a month to get rid of evidence is irrelevant. For example Julie said on the night she KNEW he had done it so she could have told the police the very next day - so to get out of that scenario he would have to had got rid of any evidence.

[Adam]

Before you make such statements you need to know more about the road and whether it was lit and whether it would have been dark at the time he was riding. We have no lights at all on our road and we are not in the middle of no where. And if he did not need lights then it also means he would be spotted easily. And also ( I don't know how many times I have to say this) He had NO way of knowing he would not be a suspect for a month. He had no way of knowing the police would fall for his story . He had no way of knowing they would not suspect him from the beginning - especially with the two shot scenario - you think he would have been quaking in his boots as soon as they went inside and thinking they would arrest him on the spot. The fact that you think he had a month to get rid of evidence is irrelevant. For example Julie said on the night she KNEW he had done it so she could have told the police the very next day - so to get out of that scenario he would have to had got rid of any evidence.

Well he would not be seen on the roads if there were no houses or cars. Miller said he would certainly not be seen if going along the sea wall. RB said this route passed no dwellings.

But he may have gone some of the way by road.

As I said there has been a closure thread on the disposal of the clothes. Amsterdam, London, Eastbourne, St Tropez, you name it. He may have just put his clothes in the washing machine when arriving back. He seemed pretty calm when with the police. Probably believing he was watertight.

[Jan]

Well he would not be seen on the roads if there were no houses or cars. Miller said he would certainly not be seen if going along the sea wall. RB said this route passed no dwellings.

But he may have gone some of the way by road.

As I said there has been a closure thread on the disposal of the clothes. Amsterdam, London, Eastbourne, St Tropez, you name it. He may have just put his clothes in the washing machine when arriving back. He seemed pretty calm when with the police. Probably believing he was watertight.

So where were they before he went to pick them up to take them abroad ? Perhaps he passed them to Julie to look after?

Don't you think he would be a bit worried about customs finding blood stained clothes in his suitcase ?

Seems a bit stupid for the man who is supposed to have planned the perfect mass murder ?

[Adam]

So where were they before he went to pick them up to take them abroad ? Perhaps he passed them to Julie to look after?

Don't you think he would be a bit worried about customs finding blood stained clothes in his suitcase ?

Seems a bit stupid for the man who is supposed to have planned the perfect mass murder ?

Who said they were blood stained ? Washing machines help here.

Customs in Eastbourne and London ?

Customs are looking for drugs. They don't care about clothes. As it happened Bamber smuggled drugs from Amsterdam.

[lookout]

Julie smuggled them from Canada before she started going out with Jeremy.

[Jan]

Who said they were blood stained ? Washing machines help here.

Customs in Eastbourne and London ?

Customs are looking for drugs. They don't care about clothes. As it happened Bamber smuggled drugs from Amsterdam.

so if he washed them - no need to take them abroad then    Silly policemen not realising why he was doing his washing while they were there interviewing him.

Was Julie not implicated for drug smuggling as well? Saw that on an official document. Bonnie and Clyde springs to mind.

[Caroline]

so if he washed them - no need to take them abroad then    Silly policemen not realising why he was doing his washing while they were there interviewing him.

Was Julie not implicated for drug smuggling as well? Saw that on an official document. Bonnie and Clyde springs to mind.

He could have washed them after the police had left or he could have shoved them in the washer when he got back after killing everyone and they could have been washing while he was with police outside WHF.

[Jane]

Julie smuggled them from Canada before she started going out with Jeremy.

When did Julie visit Canada prior to going out with Jeremy?

[Adam]

so if he washed them - no need to take them abroad then    Silly policemen not realising why he was doing his washing while they were there interviewing him.

Was Julie not implicated for drug smuggling as well? Saw that on an official document. Bonnie and Clyde springs to mind.

Correct. No need to take them through customs if there was no blood.

He could have washed and hung them up prior to meeting the police. He spent enough time at his cottage looking for phone numbers and ringing Julie. Plenty of time for a quick spin.

[lookout]

When did Julie visit Canada prior to going out with Jeremy?

I'm not sure,but she didn't go while she was with Jeremy.