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Offline susan

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« Reply #255 on: July 17, 2015, 07:41:AM »
I have the book and am reading it. It was delivered from Amazon yesterday.

Mat I have just finished the book and I am no wiser now than before I started.  Anonymous letters hold no credence for me at all waste of time. I am of course talking about Deviant.
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« Reply #256 on: July 17, 2015, 09:43:AM »
Adam

I agree why would Jeremy tell Sheila to shower and change her clothes it would have been much more authentic that she was the killer had she had blood splatter on her and gun residue then he took her clothes away.  Not buying that at all.  Skipio explained all this in an earlier post to me.
I do agree but giving benefit of the doubt...... JB just may have panicked and not thought it through anymore than the way he staged the scene? :-\ Think the claim was that she showered before she said she wanted to die.

I would guess the writer of the letter had been duped by JB or had made it up  :-\ ??
It doesn't seem to ring true to me but in some ways it makes sense,
it does solve the question of how a lone gunman  could have done this , etc .
Will be interested to hear other's opinions about this particular chapter when they've read it, I need to mull it over.  :-\

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« Reply #257 on: July 17, 2015, 10:30:AM »
Another clever author who shouts " he did it " while the man has served 30 years so far  ::)

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« Reply #258 on: July 17, 2015, 11:09:AM »
That wouldn't explain who shot Sheila. If that is the story of the book - I will throw it in the ocean!

It does.
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« Reply #259 on: July 17, 2015, 11:15:AM »
That is precisely the kind of story inmates make up to tell one another and even to try to use to escape liability by telling such to a court.  It is quite possible Jeremy did make up such and tell it to someone but believing it is another matter entirely.  If an author is actually claiming that it is true because Jeremy says so to a fellow inmate that is pretty funny.

I think what is even funnier, is people expected some massive revelation that would solve everything. That's not going to happen unless Jeremy confesses OR someone comes forward and can PROVE he didn't do it and that's not going to happen either. This is all starting to sound like Monty Python searching for the Holy Grail - Nee!!
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« Reply #260 on: July 17, 2015, 11:30:AM »
I think what is even funnier, is people expected some massive revelation that would solve everything. That's not going to happen unless Jeremy confesses OR someone comes forward and can PROVE he didn't do it and that's not going to happen either. This is all starting to sound like Monty Python searching for the Holy Grail - Nee!!
I certainly didn't expect a massive revelation, it was claimed that the book was the 'real story' of what happened that night therefore raising some people's expectations. 
Paul Harrison or his publishers tend to claim his books solve murder mysteries but imo they don't seem to do more than put over an opinion  ......  haven't finished it so haven't made my mind up yet. :-\

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« Reply #261 on: July 17, 2015, 11:39:AM »
I certainly didn't expect a massive revelation, it was claimed that the book was the 'real story' of what happened that night therefore raising some people's expectations. 
Paul Harrison or his publishers tend to claim his books solve murder mysteries but imo they don't seem to do more than put over an opinion  ......  haven't finished it so haven't made my mind up yet. :-\

I didn't suggest you did. However, there are people here who expected some huge revelation. CAL has made similar claims about her book - truth is, neither one will prove anything either way, and people will cherry pick exerts to back up their own thoughts and beliefs and criticising those that don't. 
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« Reply #262 on: July 17, 2015, 11:48:AM »
I didn't suggest you did. However, there are people here who expected some huge revelation. CAL has made similar claims about her book - truth is, neither one will prove anything either way, and people will cherry pick exerts to back up their own thoughts and beliefs and criticising those that don't.
That is the thing, unless there really is startling new evidence and if there was it would surely not be announced in a book, such evidence would be treated with more respect for all those personally involved, I would hope.
I am interested in the fact PH interviewed Brett Collins, have always wondered about his opinion of JB seeing as he was so close to him at the time of the murders.  Also, as I have already said, statements about Taff Jones from his colleagues and interviews of those policemen most closely involved with the case, think they have all died now.  Look forward to reading about Julie Mugford further on in the book.
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« Reply #263 on: July 17, 2015, 11:49:AM »
I didn't suggest you did. However, there are people here who expected some huge revelation. CAL has made similar claims about her book - truth is, neither one will prove anything either way, and people will cherry pick exerts to back up their own thoughts and beliefs and criticising those that don't.

So what do you think of the book Caroline?  Are you pleased to have been credited by PH as his researcher?


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« Reply #264 on: July 17, 2015, 12:01:PM »
If either book has evidence that just one person lied or fabricated incriminating evidence. Or that evidence has been misinterpreted by experts, then wouldn't that be enough for Bamber ?

I doubt there is any of that evidence. The relatives, police, Julie, experts etc all told the truth.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #265 on: July 17, 2015, 12:19:PM »
So what do you think of the book Caroline?  Are you pleased to have been credited by PH as his researcher?

I haven't read it yet - I helped him quite a  bit with bits and bobs, mainly the bible stuff so yes, it's nice to get an acknowledgement  (I imagine Roch will agree?). it doesn't happen often.
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« Reply #266 on: July 17, 2015, 12:21:PM »
Is Julie interviewed for either book ?
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #267 on: July 17, 2015, 12:23:PM »
I haven't read it yet - I helped him quite a bit with bits and bobs, mainly the bible stuff so yes, it's nice to get an acknowledgement  (I imagine Roch will agree?). it doesn't happen often.

has he sent you a signed copy?   ::)

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« Reply #268 on: July 17, 2015, 12:24:PM »
has he sent you a signed copy?   ::)

Not so far - not sure what the rolling eyes are for?
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« Reply #269 on: July 17, 2015, 12:31:PM »
How easy it must be to kick a man when he's already down  ::) I couldn't think of anything more simple to write about.