The Murders at White House Farm - By Carol Ann Lee (A Taster!)

[lookout]

So many conflicting stories though. It's just not cricket when you have a murder case as big as this one was at the time.

[Adam]

Speaking of which, I have a book entitled "The Essex Triangle" by David Thurlow. I quote from the Bamber section and capitals are my own:- "Police searched for the silencer for three days without finding it. Bamber's cousin, David Boutflour was in the house FOR THREE MINUTES before he found it in the gun cupboard. FORENSIC TESTS SHOWED BAMBI'S HAIR ON IT. But how? Police took two days to come and collect the silencer and on the way to the laboratory managed to lose a vital clue:  A GREY HAIR on the silencer WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY BELONGED TO BAMBI"

I think you'll agree that he may have used a little licence here -much like some of what is said on form!!!!- but whilst I feel the urge to hail DB as the hero of the hour...........NOT, although it isn't impossible for a 27 year old to have the odd colourless hair, to find ONE out of a total of approximately 120,000, stuck to a silencer, would be more of a miracle than a coincidence. FURTHER, to have forensic tests PROVE it to be Sheila's BEFORE forensic tests were done has to be an even greater miracle. I guess its subsequent loss was of no moment if they already knew from whose head it had originated.

The police didn't search for the silencer. It was murder/suicide. Why would they be looking for a silencer ?

[Adam]

The book seems well researched.

She gives a history of WHF before Neville and June were even born. But that isn't bringing anything new as regards to the massacre.

[lookout]

How can there be anything new when there's been a " blackout " concerning new evidence being prepared for the forthcoming submission ?

[John]

How can there be anything new when there's been a " blackout " concerning new evidence being prepared for the forthcoming submission ?

That's funny, I can just see the CCRC response this time.   

[lookout]

That's funny, I can just see the CCRC response this time.   

Oh,another one who's got a crystal ball,eh ?

[Caroline]

Oh,another one who's got a crystal ball,eh ?

You don't need a crystal ball to realise that he won't be getting out but you do need rose tinted glasses to think he might! 

[Adam]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=0peiVZXHGMTkUtuRsOgF&url=https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25686362-the-murders-at-white-house-farm&ved=0CDcQFjAG&usg=AFQjCNFPKVEmIw9f2_oIsXJhK4iIS0qQSw&sig2=L1MW44oj2haDFvQIISsyHQ

Here are some reviews of the book.

[Jan]

I'd like to!
I will be taking the books on my holiday with me. Two weeks away starting the 27th. When I come back I should have finished them both and be fully armed! 


40k drug debt, what a load of shit!! 

I did like the article though, it's yet another person who has had actual contact with Bamber AND looked into the case and come to the clear and obvious conclusion.

I am hoping the new books will be good enough to convince you, Jan. (xxxx did that sound like Adam?) 

I am afraid it did Mat. 

[Jan]

How can there be anything new when there's been a " blackout " concerning new evidence being prepared for the forthcoming submission ?

personally even if there are interviews with family etc I cant see any of them saying anything that they did not say in court that is relevant . But I don't want to pre-judge.

As I say I will be interested to see if there is anything new that has not been argued to death on here .

[Jan]

How can there be anything new when there's been a " blackout " concerning new evidence being prepared for the forthcoming submission ?

There may not be anything new - it may just be the authors view of the information she has put together . I cant see that a bombshell will come out because of a book - either way to be honest .

[lookout]

You don't need a crystal ball to realise that he won't be getting out but you do need rose tinted glasses to think he might! 

Stranger things have happened. Though now it's beginning to sound like a mass vendetta even if he is presumed innocent,for it's the power of the public that'll keep him where he is and NOT so much the legal system. Let's face it,it only needs the usual war-cry from the relatives saying that " they all fear for their lives " and that'll be the end of any more thoughts of appealing, that would be my reason for his continued incarceration even if his innocence is proven.
Too many people have too much to lose otherwise !!   

[maggie]

personally even if there are interviews with family etc I cant see any of them saying anything that they did not say in court that is relevant . But I don't want to pre-judge.

As I say I will be interested to see if there is anything new that has not been argued to death on here .

I look forward to reading the book, am hoping there will be some new info in it.

[Jan]

I'd like to!
I will be taking the books on my holiday with me. Two weeks away starting the 27th. When I come back I should have finished them both and be fully armed! 


40k drug debt, what a load of shit!! 

I did like the article though, it's yet another person who has had actual contact with Bamber AND looked into the case and come to the clear and obvious conclusion.

I am hoping the new books will be good enough to convince you, Jan. (xxxx did that sound like Adam?) 

Ok Mat - when you come back off holiday we will have a little book review thread.

But like I said only posters who can debate like adults allowed !

And  even posters who have made up their minds should try and discuss from both angles - its makes it more interesting I find.

[Caroline]

personally even if there are interviews with family etc I cant see any of them saying anything that they did not say in court that is relevant . But I don't want to pre-judge.

As I say I will be interested to see if there is anything new that has not been argued to death on here .

Oh, there is