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Offline gringo

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #600 on: September 19, 2017, 11:02:PM »
More denial - pathetic.
    I don't think that your letters 25 or 30 years after the event have any relevance whatsoever. JB has denied it and quite frankly after your claims regarding the wallet question and the alleged non answering of that question, your interpretations are worthless.
    How many questions have you asked JB? And how many has he answered?
    Why would you think that he avoided rather than overlooked your question? You claim that he "does that with difficult questions", but the question isn't difficult. Nor was your previous one.
     So how many questions did he avoid and how many did he answer?
     Your ridiculous letters are not evidence of something that occurred 30+ years ago. They say more about you than JB.
   

    I hadn't missed your claims, it's just that they have no credence given your previous.
  So how many questions exactly has JB "avoided"? What leads you to believe that they were avoided rather than overlooked?
    The last time that you claimed that he had avoided answering a question for two years, it turned out that he had in fact answered your question upon prompting by you after a few weeks. You however apparently lacked the basic comprehension skills, such as the ability to draw inferences, to understand this.
    From the evidence that you presented my 12 and 13 year old grandchildren were able to infer that JB answered your wallet question when he gave you an answer of, "no, or I didn't", with the caveat that he didn't remember the  "specific" question.
    That you chose to ask the same insensitive question two years later despite your question having already being answered, at least to anyone with the comprehension skills of the average 12 year old, shows more about you than anything you imagine it reveals about JB.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #601 on: September 19, 2017, 11:03:PM »
Nugs, he tried to see the pictures - why he did so, only he knows, and he's not telling.

No he didn't and once again I repeat there has never ever been proof Jeremy tried to sell photos of Sheila
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #602 on: September 19, 2017, 11:05:PM »
Difference is, I KNOW the truth, you only think you do,  ;) ;D 8)

 O you don't
I know the truth and I asked him on the telephone and he answered immediately
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #603 on: September 19, 2017, 11:06:PM »
But he wasn't a convicted murderer at that stage. He was an eligible bachelor with all the Bamber money and name behind him.
   On remand for murder. You missed a bit. These aren't even arguments, Steve.
   

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #604 on: September 19, 2017, 11:10:PM »
   On remand for murder. You missed a bit. These aren't even arguments, Steve.
 
How could he be on remand for murder if he's meeting Fielder at a Chelmsford pub? The fact that he didn't threaten libel straightaway speaks volumes.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #605 on: September 19, 2017, 11:16:PM »
From the Campaign for Freedom -

'After his first arrest and release without charge Jeremy was approached by the newspapers for his story.  Naively he went to meet with one after his solicitor advised him against it.  Jeremy was tired of being vilified by the newspapers after his arrest and wanted to tell his story.  Jeremy said that Brett Collins also advised that he should go to meet with the journalist. The Sun journalist wasn’t interested in Jeremy’s account, and continually asked questions about Sheila Caffell and requested any modelling pictures which might have been pornographic.  Jeremy had told him that there were none and that there might have been some topless ones but Colin Caffell would have those.  The journalist ran the story reporting that the newspaper had been offered these pictures and they also went to the police. The newspaper never obtained pictures of Sheila, because they didn’t exist, further proof that Jeremy Bamber had not intended to sell any pictures to the newspaper.'

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The common ground is -

There was a meeting.

The meeting was with Fielder, Bamber & Brett.

Brett was instrumental in arranging the meeting.

Bamber wanted to give his account.

Photos of Sheila were discussed.

No photos were displayed at the meeting.

The Sun ran a front page headline the following day.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2017, 11:18:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #606 on: September 19, 2017, 11:17:PM »
The problem with TCFF version is Fielder wouldn't have asked for photos.

If Bamber was offerring his account for free, that was as good as any photos.

Fielder would have biten Bamber's hand off for a big free exclusive & published Bamber's account the following day.

According to Nugs Fielder had lied before about an unrelated case. However no journalist is dumb enough to turn down a big free exclusive.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2017, 11:23:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #607 on: September 19, 2017, 11:37:PM »
The problem with TCFF version is Fielder wouldn't have asked for photos.

If Bamber was offerring his account for free, that was as good as any photos.

Fielder would have biten Bamber's hand off for a big free exclusive & published Bamber's account the following day.

According to Nugs Fielder had lied before about an unrelated case. However no journalist is dumb enough to turn down a big free exclusive.

would he bollocks they never print the suspects version or let him have his say ask colin stagg ask chris jefres/

ask the McKay sisters after the stitch up they did on them  that led to there conviction.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #608 on: September 19, 2017, 11:58:PM »
How could he be on remand for murder if he's meeting Fielder at a Chelmsford pub? The fact that he didn't threaten libel straightaway speaks volumes.

by that logic why haven't any of the relatives sued or threatened Jeremy's campaign team.

Offline Caroline

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #609 on: September 20, 2017, 12:05:AM »
by that logic why haven't any of the relatives sued or threatened Jeremy's campaign team.

Because they would rather sit back and watch them make fools of themselves.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #610 on: September 20, 2017, 12:10:AM »
  So how many questions exactly has JB "avoided"? What leads you to believe that they were avoided rather than overlooked?
    The last time that you claimed that he had avoided answering a question for two years, it turned out that he had in fact answered your question upon prompting by you after a few weeks. You however apparently lacked the basic comprehension skills, such as the ability to draw inferences, to understand this.
    From the evidence that you presented my 12 and 13 year old grandchildren were able to infer that JB answered your wallet question when he gave you an answer of, "no, or I didn't", with the caveat that he didn't remember the  "specific" question.
    That you chose to ask the same insensitive question two years later despite your question having already being answered, at least to anyone with the comprehension skills of the average 12 year old, shows more about you than anything you imagine it reveals about JB.

Astounding! It never ceases to amaze me how far some people will bend, twist and squirm in order to defend in indefensible. By the way, I have gone into great detail about the wallet, and still you don't get it - how do you answer a question if you can't remember what the question is? I'm not going into this again. Like I said, I KNOW what happened whereas you don't.
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Offline Caroline

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #611 on: September 20, 2017, 12:10:AM »
No he didn't and once again I repeat there has never ever been prove Jeremy tried to sell photos of Sheila
Fact

Yes there is.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #612 on: September 20, 2017, 12:12:AM »
O you don't
I know the truth and I asked him on the telephone and he answered immediately

You didn't ask him about the pictures Jackie - pull the other one!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #613 on: September 20, 2017, 12:13:AM »
At last, the voice of reason, thank you
I never ever believed the story

So why did you (as you say you did  ::)) ask Jeremy about it?
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #614 on: September 20, 2017, 12:16:AM »
would he bollocks they never print the suspects version or let him have his say ask colin stagg ask chris jefres/

ask the McKay sisters after the stitch up they did on them  that led to there conviction.

Ok Nugs. So you believe The Sun would have turned down Bamber's request to give 'his account'. In what would be a big, free, exclusive for them.

Instead they made up a front page lie & committed libel. About photo's they didn't know existed. As they like to help the police in framing innocent men.

A pity Bamber & Brett chose the wrong newspaper.

Nugs you're talking bollocks again.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 12:21:AM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.