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Offline maggie

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2015, 12:54:PM »
Caroline that is another good point he could have phoned her from WHF.
Yes, he could have done, more possibilities.........   :'(

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2015, 12:55:PM »
I can see your argument but would he share a bedroom with Sheila?  Seems a bit unlikely but I see your point about the slippers. :-\
He may have stayed there sometimes because he was having a very early start due to harvesting.....

I don't see why not, they weren't in the same bed and were brother and sister - but Jeremy had no intention of sleeping - anywhere.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2015, 12:56:PM »
Caroline that makes good sense to me and I remember reading in a statement of AE's how surprised she was that the other bed in Sheila's room was made up ready for sleeping in.

Quite!  ;)
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2015, 12:56:PM »
Who said he called her from Goldhanger? Just Jeremy!

Wouldn't someone at WHF hear him, if he was trying to hide ?

The Foakes's heard Jeremy drive off.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2015, 12:59:PM »
I don't know why people try to over complicate things.

It is clear he took June's bike just before the massacre so he could cycle there.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2015, 01:00:PM »
I have never seen a statement from anyone saying they saw his car parked outside - only Jeremy saying that someone would have noticed if it wasn't there. Why would they? he didn't get home until around 10pm (allegedly). People have their curtains shut by then and would have no idea if he was home or not. We only have his word that he ever left WHF.

Caroline could it be possible that he took his car home after the murders and did not walk. Do we know which room Ralph was sleeping in could Sheila have been in her Mothers room and Ralph in Sheila's room with Jeremy. Can we be sure that Ralph was sitting down when he was shot.  Maybe I am talking rubbish again :'(

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2015, 01:01:PM »
Wouldn't someone at WHF hear him, if he was trying to hide ?

The Foakes's heard Jeremy drive off.

Why would he be hiding? Think you've missed the point. Why would they hear him drive off? Was he driving a tank?
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2015, 01:03:PM »
I have never seen a statement from anyone saying they saw his car parked outside - only Jeremy saying that someone would have noticed if it wasn't there. Why would they? he didn't get home until around 10pm (allegedly). People have their curtains shut by then and would have no idea if he was home or not. We only have his word that he ever left WHF.
I am sure I've read somewhere that his neighbours gave a statement they heard him come home that evening and drive off in the morning.  He parked outside his cottage attached to theirs, it was August a bedroom window was probably open and the cottages were tiny.
Have to go out now, speak later.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2015, 01:04:PM »
Caroline could it be possible that he took his car home after the murders and did not walk. Do we know which room Ralph was sleeping in could Sheila have been in her Mothers room and Ralph in Sheila's room with Jeremy. Can we be sure that Ralph was sitting down when he was shot.  Maybe I am talking rubbish again :'(

I have suggested this before and it would make sense why some of Nevill's blood was found outside Sheila's room and not in the mian bedroom and why Sheila was found in the main bedroom on the floor at the other side of the bed. Yes, he could have driven home after the murders, left his car off road out of sight and then made the call to Julie and the police. then drove slowly back to WHF.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #84 on: June 06, 2015, 01:05:PM »
Why would he be hiding? Think you've missed the point. Why would they hear him drive off? Was he driving a tank?

Caroline hahaha that is so funny tank indeed ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #85 on: June 06, 2015, 01:05:PM »
Nevill could have slept in "Sheila´s" room occasionally when there were no visitors. That woud be the reason the bed was made up. Besides Sheila´s things were all over that bed, she used it as storage for her clothes, toiletries and makeup. It didn´t look ready to be slept in.
Do people really think that Jeremy would have slippers in the house - or that he would use Nevill´s?

On the one hand, we are made to believe that Jeremy had a horrible relationship with his parents and Sheila, yet he would be hanging around their house just like that?

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2015, 01:05:PM »
I am sure I've read somewhere that his neighbours gave a statement they heard him come home that evening and drive off in the morning.  He parked outside his cottage attached to theirs, it was August a bedroom window was probably open and the cottages were tiny.
Have to go out now, speak later.

I have never seen such a statement, it would surely be here if there were one?
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #87 on: June 06, 2015, 01:06:PM »
Why would he be hiding? Think you've missed the point. Why would they hear him drive off? Was he driving a tank?

I thought he was hiding at WHF before getting up and killing everyone.

Or did Jeremy ask if he could stay the night ? Ahhh.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #88 on: June 06, 2015, 01:08:PM »
I have suggested this before and it would make sense why some of Nevill's blood was found outside Sheila's room and not in the mian bedroom and why Sheila was found in the main bedroom on the floor at the other side of the bed. Yes, he could have driven home after the murders, left his car off road out of sight and then made the call to Julie and the police. then drove slowly back to WHF.

Caroline that would explain why we could not see any blood on Ralph's side of the bed I am starting to think about this very seriously now and it explains so much.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #89 on: June 06, 2015, 01:11:PM »
Nevill could have slept in "Sheila´s" room occasionally when there were no visitors. That woud be the reason the bed was made up. Besides Sheila´s things were all over that bed, she used it as storage for her clothes, toiletries and makeup. It didn´t look ready to be slept in.
Do people really think that Jeremy would have slippers in the house - or that he would use Nevill´s?

On the one hand, we are made to believe that Jeremy had a horrible relationship with his parents and Sheila, yet he would be hanging around their house just like that?

For what reason would he have to sleep there when there were NO visitors? Of course her stuff was all over the bed, he couldn't actually sleep in it. If Nevill was also sleeping in that room he could have used them himself. Nevill's blood outside Sheila's room but none in the main bedroom and Sheila found on the floor of his side of the bed and you find it hard to believe?

Jeremy said himself he was having supper with them, so he was hanging out with them - he is the one that paints a picture that all was rosy.
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