Freddie Emani - gives an insight into Sheila's bizare behaviour...

[mike tesko]

Sheila & Farhad “Freddie” Emami

Sheila had met Freddie, a mature 41 year old, back in 1981. Although he is often described as Sheila’s boyfriend, Freddie was married and called himself Sheila’s confidant and friend, to whom she turned to for help and advice. Freddie said that Sheila had a “deep dislike” for her mother June. [13] He described Sheila as having “a very quick and violent temper which she would lose over the simplest things.” He also says that about 10 months before the tragedies Sheila became depressed and withdrawn, he also said that she would not discuss all of her problems with him, but whenever she returned from staying at White House Farm she would be even more depressed because of June preaching to her about her lifestyle. Colin Caffell also said that Sheila had a quick temper and that Sheila’s condition always deteriorated rapidly after visiting her parents.[14] According to Freddie, June did not approve with Sheila “making love” with boyfriends and said that she "should remember God."

Freddie said that before her “first breakdown” she blamed herself for Nicholas falling out of a taxi because she was not concentrating and only thinking of her mother’s “religious rantings.” Freddie did not have contact with Sheila during the period she was being treated. It was alleged by other witnesses that Freddie was involved in drugs. About a month after Sheila came out of St Andrews for the first time, she contacted Freddie and he gave her money. He said she appeared well but he could see that she had not completely recovered. He goes on to describe an incident which occurred the following time he went to her apartment. Freddie describes one of Sheila’s psychotic episodes which started during a call with a friend.  Freddie says:

“During the call the phone went dead. Sheila suddenly became hysterical, mumbling about the phone being bugged. She became like someone possessed ranting and raving. She was striking herself and beating the wall with her fists. I tried to calm her but she did not seem to hear me. I became extremely frightened not only for her but for myself. She kept talking about the Devil and God, and stated that God was sitting opposite her and unlike what her step mother said he in fact loved her. I contacted her ex-mother in law and asked her to come round. This aggravated the situation and Sheila became even more violent and abusive. Her mother in law called and found a prescription for Sheila’s drugs and asked me to get them for her. I went to the chemist and when I retuned I was met at the front door by the mother in law who was leaving. She told me Sheila had kicked her out. I went in and tried to pacify Sheila but was unable to do so. I became extremely concerned for my own safety. I telephoned Sheila’s Doctor and a short while later one of her partners arrived. Sheila refused to let him examine her shouting that he was trying to poison her. By this time she had become completely irrational. The doctor eventually left without being able to do anything. Being unable to do anything I contacted another doctor who arrived shortly afterwards. Again he was unable to do anything because Sheila would not allow him near her.

He wrote a short note which he handed to me and asked me to hand to Sheila’s GP and gave her a stronger drug, whilst the first doctor was there Tara’s husband called to collect his daughter who was staying with Sheila. I had arranged for this as I felt something nasty might happen. I was extremely scared for everyone’s safety. At that time I felt that Sheila may use violence towards someone."

Freddie goes on to say that after Sheila came out of hospital, he discussed that episode with her and she could not remember anything about it and that she believed he had made it up. He also recalled that during the psychotic episode he witnessed, Sheila could not recognise anyone who came to the flat and “believed everyone was trying to hurt or kill her.”

[scipio_usmc]

You left out something significant because it is harmful to Jeremy.  The doctor and no one else could do anything for Sheila she could not recognize anyone because of her delusions but as soon as Nevill arrived she recognized him and instantly calmed down becoming what he called a different person.

Why would Nevill need to call Jeremy if Sheila became delusional?  He is the person who could calm her down and this episode happened when she was not on medication, all her episodes happened when she stopped taking her medication she didn't have any episodes while she was on her medication.

Moreover, despite raging for a long time during her last episode she didn't become violent with anyone.

Last she didn't have any delusions about her family after her initial treatment she had delusions about Freddie being the devil she didn't mention anything about her family to Ferguson.

The last thing noted is that she became religious after this and was closer to June than ever before as they bonded over religion.  They might have become quite close and had a good relationship had they not been murdered for all we know.

[Adam]

Two reasons why Neville would not call Jeremy -

He is the one person who could calm her down.

If he couldn't, then Jeremy certainly could not.

[lebaleb]

I don't believe any specific person can calm down someone having a psychotic episode. It very much depends on the delusion. At different times, they may see a person as a threat or a friend. Episodes go through manic and catatonic phases.
Neville could have been trying to calm Sheila by humoring her demands for him to call Jeremy.
She did have delusions about her family specifically about her children.
Schizophrenics have vastly different personalities when having psychotic episodes. My cousin was the sweetest, nicest person. During an episode he strangled his wife. He never believed what we told him he was doing during his episodes, like when he saw the writing on the wall {literally}. We thought about videoing him but the doctor said it would be too devastating.
Sheila may well have been very close to June but that has no relation to her psychotic, delusional personality.

[maggie]

I don't believe any specific person can calm down someone having a psychotic episode. It very much depends on the delusion. At different times, they may see a person as a threat or a friend. Episodes go through manic and catatonic phases.
Neville could have been trying to calm Sheila by humoring her demands for him to call Jeremy.
She did have delusions about her family specifically about her children.
Schizophrenics have vastly different personalities when having psychotic episodes. My cousin was the sweetest, nicest person. During an episode he strangled his wife. He never believed what we told him he was doing during his episodes, like when he saw the writing on the wall {literally}. We thought about videoing him but the doctor said it would be too devastating.
Sheila may well have been very close to June but that has no relation to her psychotic, delusional personality.

Hi lebaleb thank you for that, I agree a psychotic episode varies in degree but a person in a state of psychosis is by definition seeing everything and everyone in a different dimension.
It completely changes the personality of the person suffering the delusions and makes 'reasoning' an impossibility. It may have been Nevill had been able to help before when Sheila was violently angry as opposed to psychotic causing a myth about his power to grow. It may even have compounded the tragedy because both Nevill and Jeremy may have believed Nevill would have had some control over Sheila even in such a dangerous situation when in fact he was as vulnerable as anyone else.
I am just making a suggestion, not stating a fact.

[Patti]

You left out something significant because it is harmful to Jeremy.  The doctor and no one else could do anything for Sheila she could not recognize anyone because of her delusions but as soon as Nevill arrived she recognized him and instantly calmed down becoming what he called a different person.

Why would Nevill need to call Jeremy if Sheila became delusional?  He is the person who could calm her down and this episode happened when she was not on medication, all her episodes happened when she stopped taking her medication she didn't have any episodes while she was on her medication.

Moreover, despite raging for a long time during her last episode she didn't become violent with anyone.

Last she didn't have any delusions about her family after her initial treatment she had delusions about Freddie being the devil she didn't mention anything about her family to Ferguson.

The last thing noted is that she became religious after this and was closer to June than ever before as they bonded over religion.  They might have become quite close and had a good relationship had they not been murdered for all we know.

Hi Scip

Neville did not arrive during her episode with Freddie till the following day, he refused to come out to her.

Freddie was concerned, so concerned he phoned Colin's mother, who arrived and left very quickly having been told to leave by Sheila.  Not one, but three doctors came out to her during the night.  Poor lass had relapsed and this episode was the cause of her going back into hospital.  Neville did not pack her things and take her home to WHF he thought it would be better for her to go to hospital.

Sheila was a difficult patient to threat for she missed appointments and failed to take on going medication. Not only was she suffering from schizophrenia, she had the dilemma of not telling her birth parents about contact with her birth mother.  Shelia was also betrayed by the one she loved, Colin.  She had so much to deal with, she could not cope. Sheila's appearance was at the foot of everything, she wanted to look good, always straightening her dress and asking people if they thought she looked alright. Was her appearance an obsession?

OK, she may not have been violent, but she frightened the living daylights out of Freddie to the point where he became desperate to get help.  Her only violence was the repeatedly bash the wall, or throw pots and pans, with the exception that at one occasion she struck Colin. 

Could she under a delusion, have picked up the rifle, loaded a magazine and shot her family? Did they become her enemies? if so, she would not have known who they were and under her delusion, she was not aware that she was killing anyone, the rifle was the killer. Did she didn't she, could she have done this, or was it impossible for her to have killed her family under her delusional state of mind? Many questions need answering honestly. 

 

[Patti]

Hi lebaleb thank you for that, I agree a psychotic episode varies in degree but a person in a state of psychosis is by definition seeing everything and everyone in a different dimension.
It completely changes the personality of the person suffering the delusions and makes 'reasoning' an impossibility. It may have been Nevill had been able to help before when Sheila was violently angry as opposed to psychotic causing a myth about his power to grow. It may even have compounded the tragedy because both Nevill and Jeremy may have believed Nevill would have had some control over Sheila even in such a dangerous situation when in fact he was as vulnerable as anyone else.
I am just making a suggestion, not stating a fact.

Two good posts here Maggie...I agree with both you and Lebaleb. 

[Caroline]

I don't believe any specific person can calm down someone having a psychotic episode. It very much depends on the delusion. At different times, they may see a person as a threat or a friend. Episodes go through manic and catatonic phases.
Neville could have been trying to calm Sheila by humoring her demands for him to call Jeremy.
She did have delusions about her family specifically about her children.
Schizophrenics have vastly different personalities when having psychotic episodes. My cousin was the sweetest, nicest person. During an episode he strangled his wife. He never believed what we told him he was doing during his episodes, like when he saw the writing on the wall {literally}. We thought about videoing him but the doctor said it would be too devastating.
Sheila may well have been very close to June but that has no relation to her psychotic, delusional personality.

This scenario would mean Sheila was causing quite a fracas so why was June still be in bed?  This seems to be more of an ambush situation with people taken off-guard. June shot in bed, Nevill shot first in the bedroom and escaping to the kitchen.

[Adam]

This scenario would mean Sheila was causing quite a fracas so why was June still be in bed?  This seems to be more of an ambush situation with people taken off-guard. June shot in bed, Nevill shot first in the bedroom and escaping to the kitchen.

The twins not waking.

Neville being shot at least twice from close range upstairs. Without confronting Sheila.

Neville wasn't even in a dressing gown. Did Neville also have bare feet ?

[Adam]

I don't believe any specific person can calm down someone having a psychotic episode. It very much depends on the delusion. At different times, they may see a person as a threat or a friend. Episodes go through manic and catatonic phases.
Neville could have been trying to calm Sheila by humoring her demands for him to call Jeremy.
She did have delusions about her family specifically about her children.
Schizophrenics have vastly different personalities when having psychotic episodes. My cousin was the sweetest, nicest person. During an episode he strangled his wife. He never believed what we told him he was doing during his episodes, like when he saw the writing on the wall {literally}. We thought about videoing him but the doctor said it would be too devastating.
Sheila may well have been very close to June but that has no relation to her psychotic, delusional personality.

So Sheila was demanding that Jeremy comes over. And Neville humoured her by ringing him ? Neville saying 'Sheila's gone crazy' is not going to calm Sheila down.

[lookout]

During the descent of the " red mist " of a psychotic attack,the attacker has no concept of who they are facing,as they see different faces/people against who they are familiar with and therefore when attacking,in their minds,they are attacking these " faces " of persons unknown,until they come out of their episode and realise their destruction though don't remember.

 
I experimented with my friend's daughter and found the above to be quite true. 

[scipio_usmc]

Hi Scip

Neville did not arrive during her episode with Freddie till the following day, he refused to come out to her.

Freddie was concerned, so concerned he phoned Colin's mother, who arrived and left very quickly having been told to leave by Sheila.  Not one, but three doctors came out to her during the night.  Poor lass had relapsed and this episode was the cause of her going back into hospital.  Neville did not pack her things and take her home to WHF he thought it would be better for her to go to hospital.

Sheila was a difficult patient to threat for she missed appointments and failed to take on going medication. Not only was she suffering from schizophrenia, she had the dilemma of not telling her birth parents about contact with her birth mother.  Shelia was also betrayed by the one she loved, Colin.  She had so much to deal with, she could not cope. Sheila's appearance was at the foot of everything, she wanted to look good, always straightening her dress and asking people if they thought she looked alright. Was her appearance an obsession?

OK, she may not have been violent, but she frightened the living daylights out of Freddie to the point where he became desperate to get help.  Her only violence was the repeatedly bash the wall, or throw pots and pans, with the exception that at one occasion she struck Colin. 

Could she under a delusion, have picked up the rifle, loaded a magazine and shot her family? Did they become her enemies? if so, she would not have known who they were and under her delusion, she was not aware that she was killing anyone, the rifle was the killer. Did she didn't she, could she have done this, or was it impossible for her to have killed her family under her delusional state of mind? Many questions need answering honestly. 

The whole point is that she didn't recognize anyone and was scared of everyone for a long period and according to the account she instantly recognized Nevill and calmed down.  This is Freddie's account not mine. If people want to use his account of this event then they should use the whole account not cherry pick to suit their agenda.

The simple reality is that Sheila only had delusions when she was not taking medication and even then wasn't violent towards others.  Furthermore, she was set off by events not just suddenly delusional from nothing. There was nothing to set her off while everyone was in bed and she was on her medication.  SO even before we look at the specific murder evidence the notion Sheila did it is suspect.

There is no way Sheila could have committed the murders without getting GSR on her body and clothing, soot on her clothing and blood from the victims on her clothing and body, particularly Nevill's blood but she also would have had high velocity spatter from June.  Furthermore she would have had some type of damage to her hands and nails unless wearing gloves and evidence on her feet unless wearing shoes.  If she had gloves they would have been found at the scene.   

There is considerable evidence she could not have killed herself either.  there was no GSR on her hands or gown, no soot on her gown, no elevated lead levels or visible lead deposit stains as would exist if she had loaded bullets, the moderator was used to kill her then after she was dead it was removed and pu in the closet.  Furthermore, the killer dragged her body flat in order to place the weapon on her and stuck a Bible in a pool of blood that formed after her death.

We know Jeremy told a number of lies including falsely claiming the kitchen phone was broken in order to remove the bedroom phone and place it in the kitchen and his bogus story about taking out the gun to shoot rabbits, finding it with the scope and moderator unattached (which initially featured the lie the gun could not be put away with the accessories on it so that is why they had been removed) , and then leaving the gun, loaded magazine and bullets out.  He made this story up and staged the bullets after the murders but staged too many.  There is no way in hell that Sheila would have used 17-20 bullets from the supply he left out and then decided to stop using that supply and instead to go get 5-8 more rounds from the office closet.  In part Jeremy made up this story and left the phone in the kitchen off the hook so police would believe that Sheila was arguing with Nevill in the kitchen, found a weapon of opportunity , grabbed it, threatened him with it and then while he called Jeremy she attacked him causing the phone call to be disconnected and killed him then went about killing the others.

We know though this is not what happened.  We know the killer entered the master bedroom and shot June in bed and Nevill as he was in the process of getting up out of bed- he was not fully upright based on the trajectories. 6 shots were fired into June and 4 into Nevil and the gun was empty.  Then either the killer fled to the kitchen to get more ammo with Nevill  pursuing to stop the reloading or Neivll went to the kitchen to arm himself and was pursued by the killer.  Either way the  killer and Jeremy fought in the kitchen where Nevill was repeatedly bashed with the butt of the rifle, blood splattered on the stock of the rifle and the killer and eventually Nevill was knocked unconscious. The killer then reloaded and shot him 4 times more killing him.  The killer then reloaded fully rather than go upstairs with a partial magazine thus resulting in 11 bullets in the gun because the chamber had one in it already. 1 was fired between June's eyes as she lay on the floor just to make sure she was dead.  8 were used on the boys and the last 2 on Sheila resulting in the gun being empty. The killer then removed the moderator and put it away then decide dot drag her body flat so the gun could be placed on her body and after her body was moved flat and a pool of blood formed the Bible was placed in the pool of blood.

This is not a close case, it is quite obvious that Jeremy is guilty and that is why the trial lawyers had such a hard time and why on appeal his lawyers can't come up with anything to help free him.  This is not  a case where it is simply Julie's word against his. There is a great deal of evidence that corroborates Julie's claims not the least of which is the fact Jeremy called her before police and then lied about it and claimed he called police first. He had no valid reason to call her at all so just making a call period to her is suspicious but doing so before police and then lying about it is especially so.  This also corroborates her claim he called to tell her he did it and to try to get her to support his false story that he received a call from Nevill.  At some point people should to stop making excuses for his various lies and to look at the implication of the lies in combination with the other evidence.



     

[Caroline]

The twins not waking.

Neville being shot at least twice from close range upstairs. Without confronting Sheila.

Neville wasn't even in a dressing gown. Did Neville also have bare feet ?

Yes, he did.

[Caroline]

During the descent of the " red mist " of a psychotic attack,the attacker has no concept of who they are facing,as they see different faces/people against who they are familiar with and therefore when attacking,in their minds,they are attacking these " faces " of persons unknown,until they come out of their episode and realise their destruction though don't remember.

 
I experimented with my friend's daughter and found the above to be quite true.

Experimented how? I have by own experiences of schizophrenia and it was nothing like the above. Of course I didn't 'experiment' on my brother 

[scipio_usmc]

During the descent of the " red mist " of a psychotic attack,the attacker has no concept of who they are facing,as they see different faces/people against who they are familiar with and therefore when attacking,in their minds,they are attacking these " faces " of persons unknown,until they come out of their episode and realise their destruction though don't remember.

 
I experimented with my friend's daughter and found the above to be quite true.

Psychotic attacks feature either:

1) having delusions of people being someone else than they actually are

or

2) Having hallucinations of being being attacked and hose around effectively being collateral damage as the person ends up haring them while trying to protect themselves from the hallucinations.   

or

3) knowing who they are attacking and attacking the because they view the person as a threat in some manner whether it be they view the person as holding them back in some way or view the person as being a physical threat to them.

Often those attacked by schizophrenics are caretakers who are viewed as holding the schizophrenics back from achieving their delusional objectives.  Most often this happens when the schizophrenics are living with their caretakers and thus the caretakers are viewed almost as jailers who are holding them back. They know who they are attacking and in their mind they have a rational reason for doing so.

Similarly when they have delusions that someone is out to physically hurt them and act preemptively they know who they are attacking and in their mind have a rational self-defense reason for doing so.  The delusion is not who the person is but rather delusions that the person is out to harm them.