Author Topic: Hand writtem notes of Tesko, covering decades of changing views, as time passes  (Read 1054 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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I am now prepared to make available to everyone access to my handwritten notes, covering my thoughts about the case spanning three decades. Members will see evidence of how my thoughts changed as time passed, and of course when new material came to light. I do not see how the change In my thoughts about the matter, can be considered as a weakness! Since, once you receive information, intelligence, and factually documented evidence, it is only natural that such material will impact upon your view regarding what actually did happen, and take place. Imagine for one moment, if the jury had access to all the evidence, intelligence and information I am now I'm possession of?

How could anyone realistically say that the jury would have convicted Jeremy of murdering his sister?

He did not have anything whatsoever to do with his sisters death, at all...
« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 08:37:PM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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Material here, will not be posted I'm sequential order of writing...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Why would we want your personal notes? We want notes from witnesses- like the handnotes from Fletcher that you claim you found which states he test fired 27 rounds.  How about posting the all the statements that are missing from the archive and the pocketbooks of the police officers and any similar things especially the full court testimony of key people like Jeremy!



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After 30 years you think all the documents would now be available - and I am not talking about the ones Mike has.

I would like to see all Julies interviews and Jeremys for a start.

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Didn't Fletcher swap bullets during the test-firing ? Which bullets did he use ? Or they'd been swapped and he wasn't aware ?
This is the guy who'd said that two whole bullets were found in Sheila's neck,while on Vanezis report,they were fragmented.
Some jiggery-pokery going on there,even. ::)

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After 30 years you think all the documents would now be available - and I am not talking about the ones Mike has.

I would like to see all Julies interviews and Jeremys for a start.

They are available- they were made available to the defense that is who has a legal need for them.  Those supporting Jeremy with access to them have been quite stingy about releasing them.  Most of them don't help Jeremy and even hurt him so that is why.  No Jeremy supporter is going to publish everything and then say here make up your own mind.  I asked Mike to do that knowing he won't but he should at least post evidence he cites that he claims he has such as this supposed handnote form Fletcher indicating he test fired 27 rounds.

 
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They are available- they were made available to the defense that is who has a legal need for them.  Those supporting Jeremy with access to them have been quite stingy about releasing them.  Most of them don't help Jeremy and even hurt him so that is why.  No Jeremy supporter is going to publish everything and then say here make up your own mind.  I asked Mike to do that knowing he won't but he should at least post evidence he cites that he claims he has such as this supposed handnote form Fletcher indicating he test fired 27 rounds.

I don't think that is correct - Julies initial interviews were held under a special file and were not released I have seen a document confirming that.

I do not know about Jeremys interviews

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I don't think that is correct - Julies initial interviews were held under a special file and were not released I have seen a document confirming that.

I do not know about Jeremys interviews

The defense was given her statements. Interviewing her and the police who questioned her is how you get at anything discussed that wasn't in the statements.   No transcript of her interviews were made she wasn't interrogated like Jeremy with a transcript recorded.






 
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The defense was given her statements. Interviewing her and the police who questioned her is how you get at anything discussed that wasn't in the statements.   No transcript of her interviews were made she wasn't interrogated like Jeremy with a transcript recorded.

There is a list of her 32 interviews and who carried them out on the site - before her statements .

I am not sure who saw those interviews - but I don't think anyone has seen them since.

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There is a list of her 32 interviews and who carried them out on the site - before her statements .

I am not sure who saw those interviews - but I don't think anyone has seen them since.

They were verbal interviews/meetings.  Some were at her house when her place was searched for evidence. Some actually resulted in statements.  Others were to get her to sign statements she made after they were typed up. Any statements that resulted were provided to the defense. 

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Anyone who does not want to see all my handwritten notes should refrain from visiting this thread...

Whether you or anybody at all is remotely interested in anything I have had to do post trial with this case, is irrelevant, but my involvement in trying to pursue justice on Jeremy's behalf since 1989, has an historical significance. During the past 26 years with the exception of a break consisting of 7 years between 1995 and 2002 (after the failed appeal in 2002), no-one has talked face to face with Jeremy, or communicated with him as much, or had telephone conversations with him than me, save for a handful of his lifetime friends. Nobody has asked some of the questions of him that I have put to him, or asked of him. Well, as a matter of fact I duly made notes of everything we ever talked about. I also regularly adjusted my own thoughts on the case, depending on what Jeremy and I discussed, or when new material came to light. It is important to me to be able to show to the world how my current thoughts on the case came into being. Yes, on occasions I may have said things differently to what I may have said on another occasion, or what I believe in, or know to be the truth today. I do not see how when someone changes their own mind about something that it is necessarily a bad thing, especially if for the want of a better phrase, new material has become available. Sometimes I might have said one thing or another, because I was trying to respond to a query raised by someone else, or I said what I said appealing for a response from someone. This is a public forum, and everyone should try to  remember that. The purpose of me setting up the forum was with a view of giving everyone an opportunity to air their own views about a variety of topics and issues. The forum is not a court of law, we can't convict people, or acquit them, but we can talk about features of the evidence...
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Anyone who does not want to see all my handwritten notes should refrain from visiting this thread...

Whether you or anybody at all is remotely interested in anything I have had to do post trial with this case, is irrelevant, but my involvement in trying to pursue justice on Jeremy's behalf since 1989, has an historical significance. During the past 26 years with the exception of a break consisting of 7 years between 1995 and 2002 (after the failed appeal in 2002), no-one has talked face to face with Jeremy, or communicated with him as much, or had telephone conversations with him than me, save for a handful of his lifetime friends. Nobody has asked some of the questions of him that I have put to him, or asked of him. Well, as a matter of fact I duly made notes of everything we ever talked about. I also regularly adjusted my own thoughts on the case, depending on what Jeremy and I discussed, or when new material came to light. It is important to me to be able to show to the world how my current thoughts on the case came into being. Yes, on occasions I may have said things differently to what I may have said on another occasion, or what I believe in, or know to be the truth today. I do not see how when someone changes their own mind about something that it is necessarily a bad thing, especially if for the want of a better phrase, new material has become available. Sometimes I might have said one thing or another, because I was trying to respond to a query raised by someone else, or I said what I said appealing for a response from someone. This is a public forum, and everyone should try to  remember that. The purpose of me setting up the forum was with a view of giving everyone an opportunity to air their own views about a variety of topics and issues. The forum is not a court of law, we can't convict people, or acquit them, but we can talk about features of the evidence...

I think those are really fair points - well said Mike.
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