if the jury had known that julie mugford had committed criminal acts would they

[Adam]

At trial, Judge Drake in his summing up speech to the jury, told them that they should not concern themselves with involvement of any third party in the killings, but that they had to decide who the killer was between Sheila, or Jeremy. He reminded them that the killer could only be either one of them. But this recent discovery regarding use of a different type of ELEY .22LR ammunition in the shootings, significantly contradict those directions given to the jury by the judge. We can now for the very first time say with absolute confidence that there was a third party involvement in the shootings, a fact which serves to affect the aforementioned direction given to the jury at such a critical point in the trial...

A third party involved ?

Did Sheila have an accomplice then ?

[Jan]

There is another list here somewhere that is similar - but every "interview" should have had dated written notes .

Jeremy also apparently had a lot of "interviews " before the final statements .

As I said before I think they would be interesting to see . Especially the "clarifications"

[lookout]

I know one thing,JM was into cannabis before she met Jeremy,so who was the influence ?

[Caroline]

I know one thing,JM was into cannabis before she met Jeremy,so who was the influence ?

No, you don't 

[Jane]

I know one thing,JM was into cannabis before she met Jeremy,so who was the influence ?

And you know this HOW?

[lookout]

And you know this HOW?

As admitted by herself in a statement.

[Jane]

As admitted by herself in a statement.

Hm, but as she didn't know what Jeremy was doing before she met him, how would she know he wasn't doing the same thing?

[lookout]

Hm, but as she didn't know what Jeremy was doing before she met him, how would she know he wasn't doing the same thing?

You tell me.

[Jane]

You tell me.

The claim is so totally unbelievable -unless she was clairvoyant- that I doubt it was believed.

[lookout]

The claim is so totally unbelievable -unless she was clairvoyant- that I doubt it was believed.

Are you kidding ? This woman happened to have been the star prosecution witness.( she said,tongue-in-cheek )
Truly,this is in one page of 151------176 of " go on,force my hand and hope to believe me " statements,as ( jointly ) written by JM,with SJ breathing down her neck.

[Jane]

Are you kidding ? This woman happened to have been the star prosecution witness.( she said,tongue-in-cheek )
Truly,this is in one page of 151------176 of " go on,force my hand and hope to believe me " statements,as ( jointly ) written by JM,with SJ breathing down her neck.

That's as maybe, Lookout, but really, wouldn't one have to be totally brainless NOT to ask how, without the benefit of clairvoyance, it can be claimed that any person knows the actions of another PRIOR to them being acquainted?

[scipio_usmc]

There is another list here somewhere that is similar - but every "interview" should have had dated written notes .

Jeremy also apparently had a lot of "interviews " before the final statements .

As I said before I think they would be interesting to see . Especially the "clarifications"

Police don't always take notes when asking a few clarification questions of people. Police often do so over the phone these days.

[Jan]

Police don't always take notes when asking a few clarification questions of people. Police often do so over the phone these days.

I don't agree - they would have made notes to verify the conversations. And any way I said I would be interested to see both hers and Jeremys .

[scipio_usmc]

I don't agree - they would have made notes to verify the conversations. And any way I said I would be interested to see both hers and Jeremys .

Noting that they interviewed someone in their pocketbook was sufficient they didn't need to take detailed notes of everything discussed.

[Jan]

Noting that they interviewed someone in their pocketbook was sufficient they didn't need to take detailed notes of everything discussed.

Have you been in a british police force? their notebooks are their bibles ( just in case they make "mistakes " or forget things.) So just saying we had a meeting would not be enough . somewhere they would note the details - and I am guessing they are held in the protected file about JM