what if the motives were right - but the truth was not?

[Caroline]

None of us know that one.

I can have a BEST GUESS and I have one!

[Caroline]

Just a minute. You're posting things that I didn't say at all. I did NOT say that Neville was killed coming out of the shower. I'd said that Sheila had been waiting as he got out of the shower,hence he'd only managed to half dress himself.
Try reading the posts properly before jumping to conclusions.

I think your reply to my post can be written in response to the above .....

 "None of us know that one"

[scipio_usmc]

But it has never 100% been proved its Sheilas blood? So how do you know she did not put it away before she shut herself ? Why try and apply logic to her situation - if she did it she was very ill and not thinking straight at all?

If not I think the silencer was just missed and was never in the cupboard at all - it could have been under the bed - and the family story was a cover up to help the police - they just provided a story in return for getting what they wanted.

Or Jeremy was one of the most stupid mass murderers ever.

Fortunately a majority of criminals are stupid in one way or another. He thought dragging her flat to stick the gun on her and sticking the Bible near her would help his efforts when in fact they give away that Sheila was murdered by someone else. He thought putting the moderator away would be sufficient to conceal its use. He had no clue about drawback. But neither did the police and most people to this day have never heard of drawback.  So his error is understandable The less understandable error is what was he doing sticking the Bible in a pool of blood that formed after her death.

If he did stage the burns then he botched it by doing so in areas of the body that were uncovered solely because of the way Nevill was lying when dead.  That pretty much gives away the burns were done post mortem. This botch prevented police from appreciating what he was trying to convey so the whole effort was wasted.

He even botched the highlight of his plan which was to fool police into thinking no one could have entered or exited the house so the killer had to be inside.  He ended up revealing the windows were able to be used to enter and exit.  That seems like a no-brainer that this is something you would not want revealed. Yet police saw him enter through the window and he ended up admitting he did it numerous ties in the past.  He neglected to mention this to police previously though including when those at the scene asked him if there was any way in. 

[Jan]

Fortunately a majority of criminals are stupid in one way or another. He thought dragging her flat to stick the gun on her and sticking the Bible near her would help his efforts when in fact they give away that Sheila was murdered by someone else. He thought putting the moderator away would be sufficient to conceal its use. He had no clue about drawback. But neither did the police and most people to this day have never heard of drawback.  So his error is understandable The less understandable error is what was he doing sticking the Bible in a pool of blood that formed after her death.

If he did stage the burns then he botched it by doing so in areas of the body that were uncovered solely because of the way Nevill was lying when dead.  That pretty much gives away the burns were done post mortem. This botch prevented police from appreciating what he was trying to convey so the whole effort was wasted.

He even botched the highlight of his plan which was to fool police into thinking no one could have entered or exited the house so the killer had to be inside.  He ended up revealing the windows were able to be used to enter and exit.  That seems like a no-brainer that this is something you would not want revealed. Yet police saw him enter through the window and he ended up admitting he did it numerous ties in the past.  He neglected to mention this to police previously though including when those at the scene asked him if there was any way in.

So if he did them post mortem - hence why there are not marks on the pyjamas - then he was trying to indicate that Sheila was leaving some kind of delusional message? 3 burns - Holy trinity perhaps ? that's pretty deep considering the alleged other stupid mistakes he made which were his downfall. A truly complicated web he wove - tripping over it as he went.

[scipio_usmc]

So if he did them post mortem - hence why there are not marks on the pyjamas - then he was trying to indicate that Sheila was leaving some kind of delusional message? 3 burns - Holy trinity perhaps ? that's pretty deep considering the alleged other stupid mistakes he made which were his downfall. A truly complicated web he wove - tripping over it as he went.

If he did it for staging purposes then I think the most likely thing he was trying to get police to think by it was that the burns were to force Nevill to make the phone call.

You and other supporters and even the police overlook something significant.

Why would Nevill phone Jeremy even if Sheila did have the rifle? 

If Sheila had already used the weapon he would have called 999 because medical help was needed.  SO Jeremy didn't claim Nevill told him the gun had been used already.

If she didn't fire the gun yet and was just walking around with it why would he not try to take it away from her himself?  He was the strongest and biggest one in the family.  Why would he need Jeremy to disarm her?  If you fear someone is going to shoot your wife, grandkids or you do you try to disarm them before they can do so or do you leave them wandering around with the gun so they could potentially shoot others and simply pray they won't do so as you waste time calling someone who will take 10 plus minutes to arrive? 

If he was too scared to disarm her why would he call Jeremy to demand Jeremy come in harms way you call police.

Since he didn't get along with Sheila obviously Nevill would not phone him with the expectation Jeremy would calm her down.  Jeremy had no idea police would buy his claims of the call so easily.  He probably felt he needed to make it appear that Nevill made the call because he was forced and that the goal was to get Jeremy there so she could kill him too.  Multiple burns were to denote Nevill resisted at firs but gave in after several burns.  Police failed to read it that way but it didn't matter because they accepted Nevill would have phoned him though it makes no sense.

If it wasn't staged he most likely did it to test if he was dead I doubt he did it just for the satisfaction of mutilation. 

[lookout]

  In RWB's COLP statement,he states that he hadn't expected this statement to have been used in evidence,as he'd put it,he was just " brainstorming " by putting down what he was thinking at the time,down on paper. What ?  So what he'd surmised became a legal document ?