what if the motives were right - but the truth was not?

[Jan]

If he was/is - he couldn't need to keep changing his story or seek out technicalities to make a desperate bid for freedom. There is only one truth and it doesn't change when you have a new idea about a CCRC submission!

If there is only one truth in your mind then how can you discuss ?

[Jan]

Jan you have to stop supporting Jeremy.

You know he is guilty and refused to say how Sheila could have committed the crime. Despite all the crime scene evidence being available.

You are like groundhog day Adam

And I have told you over and over again what my answer is to that comment. Its not my fault you can not seem to absorb answers you don't want to hear. That's your problem - not mine.

[lookout]

 He's definitely on a mission. You don't tell someone to stop supporting,it's ludicrous,besides being manipulative,which Jeremy has been blamed for umpteen times.

[David1819]

David if the evidence was manufactured it could be because the ones responsible knew he was guilty but had no evidence.

Yes. This is what is referred to as Noble Cause Corruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_cause_corruption

If Jeremy was responsible, manufacturing evidence and police corruption would be in the interest of Justice.

This could explain why he keeps protesting his innocence, For example he might be fully aware he didn't use a sound moderator or he did use one but destroyed it and knows the one used to convict him was a fraud so he knows he is onto a winner if he can prove the corruption 

[Caroline]

Yes. This is what is referred to as Noble Cause Corruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_cause_corruption

If Jeremy was responsible, manufacturing evidence and police corruption would be in the interest of Justice.

This could explain why he keeps protesting his innocence, For example he might be fully aware he didn't use a sound moderator or he did use one but destroyed it and knows the one used to convict him was a fraud so he knows he is onto a winner if he can prove the corruption

This is what I believe.

[susan]

Yes. This is what is referred to as Noble Cause Corruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_cause_corruption

If Jeremy was responsible, manufacturing evidence and police corruption would be in the interest of Justice.

This could explain why he keeps protesting his innocence, For example he might be fully aware he didn't use a sound moderator or he did use one but destroyed it and knows the one used to convict him was a fraud so he knows he is onto a winner if he can prove the corruption

David this is what I believe too.  Some posters who thought Jeremy guilty from way back think this also as I discussed it with them.

[David1819]

David this is what I believe too.  Some posters who thought Jeremy guilty from way back think this also as I discussed it with them.

I've always found it odd that Jeremy would put a blood stained silencer in a cupboard after he done it.
Then his extended family go looking in the house for clues then find the most incriminating evidence that the forensics failed to find 

If he is guilty I have no problem if that's what happened 

[susan]

I've always found it odd that Jeremy would put a blood stained silencer in a cupboard after he done it.
Then his extended family go looking in the house for clues then find the most incriminating evidence that the forensics failed to find 

If he is guilty I have no problem if that's what happened

David I have made my opinion clear on the silencer I don't think he used one had he used one he would have left it on the rifle as he may not have realised it was too long for Sheila to shoot herself.  I can't even speculate on who found the silencer and why they found it and not the police it would be grossly unfair as I just don't have an answer. If he did use a silencer he was pretty stupid to put it away without cleaning it.

[lookout]

Of course a silencer was used.How do you account for the blood on it ?

[Caroline]

Of course a silencer was used.How do you account for the blood on it ?

I have already accounted for the blood in it and if it was used - how did it get back into the cupboard after Sheila 'shot herself'?

[lookout]

I have already accounted for the blood in it and if it was used - how did it get back into the cupboard after Sheila 'shot herself'?

None of us know that one.

[Jan]

This is what I believe.

So do you believe the police falsified the evidence or the family - or both together?

[Jan]

None of us know that one.

But it has never 100% been proved its Sheilas blood? So how do you know she did not put it away before she shut herself ? Why try and apply logic to her situation - if she did it she was very ill and not thinking straight at all?

If not I think the silencer was just missed and was never in the cupboard at all - it could have been under the bed - and the family story was a cover up to help the police - they just provided a story in return for getting what they wanted.

Or Jeremy was one of the most stupid mass murderers ever.

[David1819]

None of us know that one.

So you believe the silencer was used and Jeremy is Innocent 

You also believe Neville was killed when he got out the shower then managed to get into the kitchen to call Jeremy after he was killed 

I think you need to revise the case all over again. Just saying 

[lookout]

So you believe the silencer was used and Jeremy is Innocent 

You also believe Neville was killed when he got out the shower then managed to get into the kitchen to call Jeremy after he was killed 

I think you need to revise the case all over again. Just saying 

Just a minute. You're posting things that I didn't say at all. I did NOT say that Neville was killed coming out of the shower. I'd said that Sheila had been waiting as he got out of the shower,hence he'd only managed to half dress himself.
Try reading the posts properly before jumping to conclusions.