How would you react ?

[Jan]

Agreed!

Oh yes that would work . Even though apparently family members are always the first suspects?

[Jan]

Do you think Neville was downstairs and heard shots upstairs ?

Then ran upstairs in just his PJ's. Getting shot twice from close range, then twice from a few feet. Before running straight back downstairs.

If he ran upstairs and got within inches of Sheila holding the rifle, there would have been an upstairs confrontation.

Adam - I could say whatever I want and you cant prove or disprove it - hence my post to you the other day about the scenario of the order of shots - anyway Skippy has given it to you on a plate - apparently Jeremy carefully planned the order so the inheritance would be clear . shame the police and courts could not unravel the clear order of deaths that he had lain for them.

[nugnug]

i think if she was really incapable of of using a gun her husband would of piped up and said somthing i mean its not the hardist weapon in the word to use and it doesnt exactly take brillant marksmanship to shoot somone  times from close range.

[maggie]

so why not just wait 15 minutes at his house then ring 999 ? Your argument makes no sense

Excellent suggestion Jan, he could have waited an hour,all he had to do was change the time of the phone call from nevill, he had total co troll of the situation if he invented the phone call.

[susan]

i think if she was really incapable of of using a gun her husband would of piped up and said somthing i mean its not the hardist weapon in the word to use and it doesnt exactly take brillant marksmanship to shoot somone  times from close range.

nugnug Colin said in his book Sheila knew nothing about guns although it would appear anyone could fire a 2.2 rifle.

[Adam]

He was not with the officers who were trying apparently for two hours to get a response so he would not have known . Its not his fault that the officers can not make entries correctly. Its quite clear to the rest of us what "in conversation with" means . Its is as clear as day - but apparently that was just another mistake that we have to let them off for.

Do you think there were conversations with Sheila. The police with load speakers. Sheila shouting from the window.

Jeremy not aware and the police not telling him. Even though he could be used in talking Sheila down.

[nugnug]

thats not what he said at the time at the time he dident qustion that she had done it.

[Adam]

Adam - I could say whatever I want and you cant prove or disprove it - hence my post to you the other day about the scenario of the order of shots - anyway Skippy has given it to you on a plate - apparently Jeremy carefully planned the order so the inheritance would be clear . shame the police and courts could not unravel the clear order of deaths that he had lain for them.

The pathologist at court said it was impossible to tell what time anyone died.

Jeremy would have looked at safety first. By taking out Neville and June first.

[susan]

Excellent suggestion Jan, he could have waited an hour,all he had to do was change the time of the phone call from nevill, he had total co troll of the situation if he invented the phone call.

Morning Maggie/Jan  what a good suggestion Jeremy could have delayed the phone call from his Dad had he wanted, I think, bit confused now Scipio will explain why that was not possible

[Adam]

so why not just wait 15 minutes at his house then ring 999 ? Your argument makes no sense

He probably did wait 15 minutes or more. To clean up and put on several layers of new clothes.

Then he rang the 4th furthest away police station. To delay things a bit more.

[nugnug]

Excellent suggestion Jan, he could have waited an hour,all he had to do was change the time of the phone call from nevill, he had total co troll of the situation if he invented the phone call.

well he had all night to phone the police if he was the killer

[susan]

thats not what he said at the time at the time he dident qustion that she had done it.

nugnug I know that he also said Jeremy was like a brother to him so was he convinced by others I have often wondered about this and it would make it so much easier for him to live with it knowing Sheila had not killed his boys.  We will never get the answer to this.

[Adam]

I have asked you several times and told you why you should not keep repeating that. It is not necessary and I have explained why I think that was entered for effect in the later statements. He used the correct medical terms according to the few notebooks we have seen.

I am afraid that is what witness statements state Jeremy said.

There is no possibility of it not being mentioned just because you don't like it.

[nugnug]

nugnug I know that he also said Jeremy was like a brother to him so was he convinced by others I have often wondered about this and it would make it so much easier for him to live with it knowing Sheila had not killed his boys.  We will never get the answer to this.

its very rare for the vicems familys to qustion the guilt of the man convicted of the crime im not suprised colin thinks jeremy did it.

[susan]

its very rare for the vicems familys to qustion the guilt of the man convicted of the crime im not suprised colin thinks jeremy did it.

nugnug I totally agree with you.