How would you react ?

[lookout]

That's probably not a good idea if you don't know the people involved.

Haven't you ever read a book and realised that there was more to it than met the eye ? I have.

[Jan]

We'll see.

don't worry I will wave to you all as I leave.

[Alias]

Actually, I was talking in general terms and didn't say you were trying to convince anyone of anything.

In a debate about guilt of innocence, I'd have thought it would be helpful to know which side someone is arguing from. However, I have never seen the (so called) fence sitters consider anything from a guilty perspective, in fact quite the opposite. They defend Jeremy vehemently - and again, I'm talking in GENERAL terms.

I have often contemplated the case from a guilty standpoint, but people tend not to notice it - I have noticed.

[maggie]

I have often contemplated the case from a guilty standpoint, but people tend not to notice it - I have noticed.

  I have my own opinions but unless I was totally convinced it would always be changing therefore, I wouldn't tell.  I admit I once was quite convinced JB was innocent but after learning so much about the case I have had to consider all the evidence, read and consider others opinions and have some questions and ideas of my own so now I'm undecided.

[guest154]

  I have my own opinions but unless I was totally convinced it would always be changing therefore, I wouldn't tell.  I admit I once was quite convinced JB was innocent but after learning so much about the case I have had to consider all the evidence, read and consider others opinions and have some questions and ideas of my own so now I'm undecided.

Out of interest, Maggie - if you ever believed he was guilty. Would you feel comfortable "coming out" on the forum?

[Jane]

  I have my own opinions but unless I was totally convinced it would always be changing therefore, I wouldn't tell.  I admit I once was quite convinced JB was innocent but after learning so much about the case I have had to consider all the evidence, read and consider others opinions and have some questions and ideas of my own so now I'm undecided.

Perhaps you need to talk openly about your thoughts. I'm convinced everything becomes much clearer if we hear the words said.

[Caroline]

  I have my own opinions but unless I was totally convinced it would always be changing therefore, I wouldn't tell.  I admit I once was quite convinced JB was innocent but after learning so much about the case I have had to consider all the evidence, read and consider others opinions and have some questions and ideas of my own so now I'm undecided.

So what is it about the case that shifted from innocent to undecided? There must be something specific that you're unsure of? I'm not asking to be a smart arse, I'm genuinely interested.

[maggie]

Out of interest, Maggie - if you ever believed he was guilty. Would you feel comfortable "coming out" on the forum?

Not sure but I wouldn't stay and argue his guilt against innocents, why would I, what's the point?

[maggie]

Perhaps you need to talk openly about your thoughts. I'm convinced everything becomes much clearer if we hear the words said.

I'm not confused April, everything is clear to me, thanks.

[Caroline]

Not sure but I wouldn't stay and argue his guilt against innocents, why would I, what's the point?

Because it's not supposed to be an 'argument' it's supposed to be a debate.

[lookout]

Not sure but I wouldn't stay and argue his guilt against innocents, why would I, what's the point?

I wouldn't hold it against you Maggie if you were to speak of your uncertainties.

[Alias]

Not sure but I wouldn't stay and argue his guilt against innocents, why would I, what's the point?

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So you wouldn´t join the bash the buffs brigade?  SORRY! I know this was childish! 

[maggie]

So what is it about the case that shifted from innocent to undecided? There must be something specific that you're unsure of? I'm not asking to be a smart arse, I'm genuinely interested.

There was nothing specific, different things over a long time but I'm happy where I am at the moment, it's not a huge question in my life.  

[Caroline]

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So you wouldn´t join the bash the buffs brigade?  SORRY! I know this was childish! 

Yes, it is and you're already part of your own bash the buffs brigade - whatever that is! 

[Alias]

Yes, it is and you're already part of your own bash the buffs brigade - whatever that is! 

If you want debate and not arguments, you could start by limiting your use of this: 
You use it an awful lot.